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Old 05-09-2018, 01:01 AM
 
Location: Laguna Niguel, Orange County CA
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I just dropped the Google street view man on a randomly selected street in Boyle Heights. Wow, I'm glad I can afford to live on the Westside.
What’s wrong with grit? It makes it “ real”.
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Old 05-09-2018, 01:09 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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From the Website of Defend Boyle Heights their goal is

“Destroy the Boyle Heights arts district one gallery at a time, one landlord at a time”

If you read even part of the stuff on their site how could one not consider them a hate group and/or terrorist
Organization .
Reminds me of the kind of language ISIS and other terrorist groups use .

Defend Boyle Heights
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Old 05-09-2018, 03:52 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Here is something to think about, we've seen resistance by neighborhoods and communities play out in so many other ways, so how is this different?

Rural community doesn't want Indian Casino built because it will increase traffic.
Quiet beach community opposes new apartment building that exceeds or is right at the height limit for the neighborhood and blocks views.
Suburban area rejects the idea of affordable housing or a homeless shelter built in their neighborhood.
Eclectic beach community protests the arrival of Starbucks, Target or other chain stores which take away from the neighborhoods integrity.
Chic gentrified neighborhood opposes fast food restaurant with drive thru because they want the neighborhood to be pedestrian oriented and not car-centric.

So why and how is this different and why does it cause outrage. It's basically RENTERS NIMBYISM but with racial twist that turns many people off (myself included), the other big difference is that many of these people are renters and don't own property which gives them less of a voice. Personally, my opinion is that if you don't own property then it is not really your neighborhood.
I’d say it’s different because they are using blatant racism and also violence and vandalism. Smashing coffee shop windows , spray painting anti white stuff on buildings , using potato guns to shoot people at art galleries etc .
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Old 05-09-2018, 03:52 AM
 
Location: San Diego CA>Tijuana, BC>San Antonio, TX
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Here is something to think about, we've seen resistance by neighborhoods and communities play out in so many other ways, so how is this different?

Rural community doesn't want Indian Casino built because it will increase traffic.
Quiet beach community opposes new apartment building that exceeds or is right at the height limit for the neighborhood and blocks views.
Suburban area rejects the idea of affordable housing or a homeless shelter built in or near their neighborhood.
Affluent neighborhood opposes light rail built in their neighborhood for fear that it will attract riffraff from the inner-city
Eclectic beach community protests the arrival of Starbucks, Target or other chain stores which take away from the neighborhoods independent integrity.
Chic gentrified neighborhood opposes fast food restaurant with drive thru because they want the neighborhood to be pedestrian oriented and not car-centric.

So why and how is this different and why does it cause outrage. It's basically RENTERS NIMBYISM but with racial twist that turns many people off (myself included), the other big difference is that many of these people are renters and don't own property which gives them less of a voice. Personally, my opinion is that if you don't own property then it is not really your neighborhood.
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Old 05-09-2018, 11:56 AM
 
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Rural community doesn't want Indian Casino built because it will increase traffic.
Quiet beach community opposes new apartment building that exceeds or is right at the height limit for the neighborhood and blocks views.
Suburban area rejects the idea of affordable housing or a homeless shelter built in or near their neighborhood.
Affluent neighborhood opposes light rail built in their neighborhood for fear that it will attract riffraff from the inner-city
Eclectic beach community protests the arrival of Starbucks, Target or other chain stores which take away from the neighborhoods independent integrity.
Chic gentrified neighborhood opposes fast food restaurant with drive thru because they want the neighborhood to be pedestrian oriented and not car-centric.
Racist, wannabe-marxist, losers at life don't want anyone coming into their rat's nest and shining a light on what failures they are.

Add that one to your list, please. Thanks.
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Old 05-09-2018, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Laguna Niguel, Orange County CA
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Here is something to think about, we've seen resistance by neighborhoods and communities play out in so many other ways, so how is this different?

Rural community doesn't want Indian Casino built because it will increase traffic.
Quiet beach community opposes new apartment building that exceeds or is right at the height limit for the neighborhood and blocks views.
Suburban area rejects the idea of affordable housing or a homeless shelter built in or near their neighborhood.
Affluent neighborhood opposes light rail built in their neighborhood for fear that it will attract riffraff from the inner-city
Eclectic beach community protests the arrival of Starbucks, Target or other chain stores which take away from the neighborhoods independent integrity.
Chic gentrified neighborhood opposes fast food restaurant with drive thru because they want the neighborhood to be pedestrian oriented and not car-centric.

So why and how is this different and why does it cause outrage. It's basically RENTERS NIMBYISM but with racial twist that turns many people off (myself included), the other big difference is that many of these people are renters and don't own property which gives them less of a voice. Personally, my opinion is that if you don't own property then it is not really your neighborhood.
It’s not akin to NIMBYism in that they are protesting things that better their community in every respect.
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Old 05-09-2018, 07:45 PM
 
Location: West Los Angeles
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Latinx? Columbusing?

This thread has been quite the educational experience and my vocabulary has been diversified.
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Old 05-09-2018, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Orange County... Arizona bound
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Latinx? Columbusing?

This thread has been quite the educational experience and my vocabulary has been diversified.
You forgot white-Tina. That's my fav
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Old 05-09-2018, 09:26 PM
 
Location: West Los Angeles
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You forgot white-Tina. That's my fav
Yeah, that's a good one too. BTW, I hope I'm not Columbusing by saying that.
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Old 06-12-2018, 11:55 AM
 
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I think the reason you see this among the Chicano community here is because this was originally their land. Some of them, I feel, were told “this was your land but the Anglos took it from you.” I feel this will change the dynamics of the Mexican American community in Eastside LA.

By contrast, in Nj, where I live, you don’t see this type of resistance among Latinos when it comes to change, not even gentrification. People here would be like “it’s going to happen eventually, such is life.” I feel this is because New Jersey never belonged to Latin America, like California did.
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