Stupid bicycle lanes where a lane for cars used to be (Sacramento: cost, vs)

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by Snort

Bentley? I forget. Those furrin' cars are confusin' to me.

A Royce AND a Bentley. Also an Aston Martin. And my bicycles are gold-plated ... Trumpcicles ...

[Exitus Acta Probat]

A week ago, my friend stopped his BMW at a 4-way stop in Santa Monica. Just as he was about to proceed through the intersection, a bicyclist blew across it. My friend, after slamming on his brakes, briefly tapped his horn -- the bicyclist promptly displayed a middle digit and shouted, "**** you!"

Every now and then something like this happens, and everybody has a similar story to tell. It's not beneficial to the bicycling community when these sorts of things happen, because people in other cars aren't typically this hostile when they clearly do something wrong while driving. I've seen outrageous behavior from bicyclists over the years that haven't any analog to automobile drivers, pedestrians, skateboarders, or anybody else who uses the streets.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by Exitus Acta Probat

A week ago, my friend stopped his BMW at a 4-way stop in Santa Monica. Just as he was about to proceed through the intersection, a bicyclist blew across it. My friend, after slamming on his brakes, briefly tapped his horn -- the bicyclist promptly displayed a middle digit and shouted, "**** you!"

Every now and then something like this happens, and everybody has a similar story to tell. It's not beneficial to the bicycling community when these sorts of things happen, because people in other cars aren't typically this hostile when they clearly do something wrong while driving. I've seen outrageous behavior from bicyclists over the years that haven't any analog to automobile drivers, pedestrians, skateboarders, or anybody else who uses the streets.

Really?

Road Rage Fight Results In Death To Both Drivers Near Sacramento
https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/20...ht-sacramento/

[Exitus Acta Probat]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

Really?

Yes. Really.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by Exitus Acta Probat

Yes. Really.

Did you read the link?

[TinaTwo]

Originally Posted by JohnG72

This. The dopey LA and California voters keep electing the same people over and over. So this is what you get.

Not all of us. Some of us have sense but we’re overrun by lunatics.

[seain dublin]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

Yes. LOTS of arrogant and stupid cyclists. Just like arrogant and stupid drivers ... and pedestrians ... in fact, the whole human race leaves much question as to whether there is intelligent life on the planet.

That said, why should bicyclists be any different? There are roads for stupid drivers. Sidewalks for stupid pedestrians. Why not let stupid bicyclists have their share of mobility venues?

Because they the cyclists have the most to lose in an accident with a car, I thought that was a pretty simple one.


Just saw a guy tonight in the Valley at Burbank and Hollywood Way in dark clothing, no reflectors, he was wearing shorts so the lights of the cars hit his pale white legs, he just blew through the intersection.


It amazes me, you should ride a bike like everyone in a vehicle is out to kill you, that means you don't wear earbuds, you look around you, you have reflectors, lights on the bike and you don't put yourself at risk, if you're smart and don't want to end up seriously injured or dead....again not a d difficult concept.

[CrownVic95]

Originally Posted by Exitus Acta Probat

A week ago, my friend stopped his BMW at a 4-way stop in Santa Monica. Just as he was about to proceed through the intersection, a bicyclist blew across it. My friend, after slamming on his brakes, briefly tapped his horn -- the bicyclist promptly displayed a middle digit and shouted, "**** you!"

Every now and then something like this happens, and everybody has a similar story to tell. It's not beneficial to the bicycling community when these sorts of things happen, because people in other cars aren't typically this hostile when they clearly do something wrong while driving. I've seen outrageous behavior from bicyclists over the years that haven't any analog to automobile drivers, pedestrians, skateboarders, or anybody else who uses the streets.

We've all seen it. They are in a sociopathic class by themselves.

[Hulsker 1856]

Originally Posted by eureka1

Get used to it. Bikes are here to stay.

Indeed.

And the trantrums from the reactionaries are an amusing fringe benefit!

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by seain dublin

Because they the cyclists have the most to lose in an accident with a car, I thought that was a pretty simple one.


Just saw a guy tonight in the Valley at Burbank and Hollywood Way in dark clothing, no reflectors, he was wearing shorts so the lights of the cars hit his pale white legs, he just blew through the intersection.


It amazes me, you should ride a bike like everyone in a vehicle is out to kill you, that means you don't wear earbuds, you look around you, you have reflectors, lights on the bike and you don't put yourself at risk, if you're smart and don't want to end up seriously injured or dead....again not a d difficult concept.

So do pedestrians ... yet we have sidewalks. Bizarre, huh? All hail motorized vehicular traffic only? Do pedestrians jaywalk? Walk at night in dark clothing? Jog in streets at times?