unpopular opinion: 90% of LA is ugly (Los Angeles, San Diego: living in, assessment, beaches)

[Leona Valley]

Born and raised in Los Angeles. Have lived here 58 of my 59 years. I've had enough. Far too much change over those decades not only in Los Angeles but California overall also has gone to hell. The politics, traffic, taxes, homeless asking for money everywhere you go, cost of living, rude people, unsafe neighborhoods. NYC is the same. Plenty of dirty, smelly, loud areas. Cities and states catering to illegal invaders should go unfunded by our tax payers.


I've spent time traveling parts of the Midwest the past 5 years and those places are much cleaner and safer and people are friendly and strangers say hello and ask how you're doing. Most other states have lower taxes and some have no income tax. Cost of living is cheaper and you get more bang for your buck. The average price of a home in L.A. County is a joke.


Lastly driving from state to state I notice when traveling back to Los Angeles drivers from Ca. are some of the rudest in the nation. They will stay in the fast lane and not move over when cars approach them from behind. They don't care. I'm fortunate enough to have a successful online business and therefore can move basically anywhere within a reasonable distance from a UPS of Fed-Ex.


Funny thing is when traveling to other states when I tell them I'm from Ca., often their response is, "Sorry". :-)

[BGS91762]

Originally Posted by Leona Valley

Born and raised in Los Angeles. Have lived here 58 of my 59 years. I've had enough. Far too much change over those decades not only in Los Angeles but California overall also has gone to hell. The politics, traffic, taxes, homeless asking for money everywhere you go, cost of living, rude people, unsafe neighborhoods. NYC is the same. Plenty of dirty, smelly, loud areas. Cities and states catering to illegal invaders should go unfunded by our tax payers.


I've spent time traveling parts of the Midwest the past 5 years and those places are much cleaner and safer and people are friendly and strangers say hello and ask how you're doing. Most other states have lower taxes and some have no income tax. Cost of living is cheaper and you get more bang for your buck. The average price of a home in L.A. County is a joke.


Lastly driving from state to state I notice when traveling back to Los Angeles drivers from Ca. are some of the rudest in the nation. They will stay in the fast lane and not move over when cars approach them from behind. They don't care. I'm fortunate enough to have a successful online business and therefore can move basically anywhere within a reasonable distance from a UPS of Fed-Ex.


Funny thing is when traveling to other states when I tell them I'm from Ca., often their response is, "Sorry". :-)

Good luck finding what you want but most places have different types of problems. If you want to stay away from homeless don’t move near to any large US city. If you want to save on taxes don’t move to most east coast states. Property taxes will be higher in many places especially if you have owned your CA for a long time,thanks to Prop 13. Also expect to pay much more for heating and cooling in most other areas of the country. However, if you want less crowds etc than moving from CA would be best. Just don’t expect Utopia and be realistic.

[Angelino19]

Originally Posted by Finper

Sorry didn't know my opinion would effect you so much. I won't post any more on this topic you can go back to enjoying your view.

You're so wrong !!

Check out the city view from the Griffith Park Observatroy.......Just Beautiful
Check out the city view from hills behind the Hollywood Bowl......Just Beautiful
Check out the city view from the Getty Center Museum......just Beautiful
Check out the city view from Runyan Park..........Just Beautiful
Check out the city view from the Palos Verdes Peninsula.....just Beautiful
Check out the city view from the various Look-Outs along Mulholland Drive......Just Beautiful
Check ou the city view from Kenneth Hahn State Park.........Just beautiful

[Angelino19]

Originally Posted by Commonproject

Having lived in LA for almost 2 years, the realization is that most of this city looks very depressing.

Yes there are beaches, but most are crowded and flooded with tourists/druggies. And don't get me wrong, there are absolutely beautiful pockets, but step outside of those and things immediately start to look like a 3rd world country.

There is a lack of water aside from the beaches as you get inland, unless you want to drive 4 hours to Big Bear. Most of the landscape is dry and brown, including all the hiking trails and the mountains which all look the same due to the lack of greenery. Compared to much of the Bay Area, PNW, and San Diego, with tree-lined streets and bodies of water all around, LA would rank dead last. Why we still keep hearing that "LA is beautiful" and people posting pictures of a polluted and unspectacular skyline with a brown/barren backdrop is beyond me. Am I just totally missing the beauty here?

You're so wrong !!

Check out the city view from the Griffith Park Observatroy.......Just Beautiful
Check out the city view from hills behind the Hollywood Bowl......Just Beautiful
Check out the city view from the Getty Center Museum......just Beautiful
Check out the city view from Runyan Park..........Just Beautiful
Check out the city view from the Palos Verdes Peninsula.....just Beautiful
Check out the city view from the various Look-Outs along Mulholland Drive......Just Beautiful
Check ou the city view from Kenneth Hahn State Park.........Just beautiful

[Finper]

Originally Posted by Angelino19

You're so wrong !!

Check out the city view from the Griffith Park Observatroy.......Just Beautiful
Check out the city view from hills behind the Hollywood Bowl......Just Beautiful
Check out the city view from the Getty Center Museum......just Beautiful
Check out the city view from Runyan Park..........Just Beautiful
Check out the city view from the Palos Verdes Peninsula.....just Beautiful
Check out the city view from the various Look-Outs along Mulholland Drive......Just Beautiful
Check ou the city view from Kenneth Hahn State Park.........Just beautiful

Lol sorry can't see those views while sitting in traffic on the 5 passing south central Hollywood and skid row. Ya know what the majority of Anjelinos struggling to survive see everyday in this urban jungle. I never said 100% of LA is ugly buy what you pointed out can be in the 10%. You have to drive through a lot of ugly to get to a little pretty here

[Mike from back east]

Originally Posted by Finper

.... You have to drive through a lot of ugly to get to a little pretty here

At first I thought you were talking about a single's bar....

[Spikett]

Originally Posted by BGS91762

Good luck finding what you want but most places have different types of problems. If you want to stay away from homeless don’t move near to any large US city. If you want to save on taxes don’t move to most east coast states. Property taxes will be higher in many places especially if you have owned your CA for a long time,thanks to Prop 13. Also expect to pay much more for heating and cooling in most other areas of the country. However, if you want less crowds etc than moving from CA would be best. Just don’t expect Utopia and be realistic.

Totally agree.

[dp731]

Originally Posted by Mike from back east

At first I thought you were talking about a single's bar....

Thanks for the much-needed humor

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by Finper

Ya know what the majority of Anjelinos struggling to survive see everyday in this urban jungle.

No, the majority of us are not "struggling to survive." If we were, we wouldn't live here. You make it sound as if everyone hates living here.

[Finper]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

No, the majority of us are not "struggling to survive." If we were, we wouldn't live here. You make it sound as if everyone hates living here.

Obviously most people don't hate living here looking at our over population. But people that are commuting in traffic on the 5 everyday instead of living in the hills enjoying the views are most likely struggling. I know my niece is who's on the 5 right now.