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Old 02-02-2019, 09:52 AM
 
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https://www.smdp.com/serious-crime-i...percent/172447

Santa Monica experienced 8.8 percent more serious crime in 2018, including thefts, burglaries and aggravated assaults. The same category of crime rose by 12 percent in 2017 and 5.5 percent in 2016.

Serious crimes have risen 29 percent in Santa Monica between 2015 and 2018 and law enforcement has maintained that legislation that has decriminalized certain offenses has allowed repeat criminals to return to the streets shortly after being sentenced. The Santa Monica Police Department told the Daily Press last year that it arrests the same people frequently.
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Old 02-02-2019, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Laguna Niguel, Orange County CA
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Metro system introduced more enrichment.
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Old 02-02-2019, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Metro system introduced more enrichment.
All aboard the crime train !

https://www.smdp.com/has-the-expo-tu...e-train/163250
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Old 02-02-2019, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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How long before we have the posters talking about how high crime was in Santa Monica back in the 80s and 90s
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Old 02-02-2019, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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How long before we have the posters talking about how high crime was in Santa Monica back in the 80s and 90s
I think you are referring to yours truly. You posted this in another thread about ONE single crime incident in the City of Los Angeles:

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This is sick !

What is going on in this city ? Total lack of civility


The incident occurred on Jan. 26 along the 600 block of Spring Street.

Mike Watson, who shared the video on Facebook, wrote that the man was "causing a scene" about the price of hot dogs being sold outside a bar in the area.

https://ktla.com/2019/01/29/man-caug...igate-assault/

Crime actually DECREASED in the City of Los Angeles in 2018. Homicides were at their second lowest in more than 50 years. So my comment in that thread was exactly right.

https://www.policeone.com/crime/arti...crime-in-2018/

I am a "reality based" poster interested in data, facts and rational argument. The OP of this thread has posted actual data which outlines a real (negative) trend for the City of Santa Monica.

Santa Monica and its police department will need to think about new strategies and/or methods to reverse the trend.
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Old 02-02-2019, 01:23 PM
 
Location: West Los Angeles and Rancho Palos Verdes
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I think you are referring to yours truly. You posted this in another thread about ONE single crime incident in the City of Los Angeles:




Crime actually DECREASED in the City of Los Angeles in 2018. Homicides were at their second lowest in more than 50 years. So my comment in that thread was exactly right.

https://www.policeone.com/crime/arti...crime-in-2018/

I am a "reality based" poster interested in data, facts and rational argument. The OP of this thread has posted actual data which outlines a real (negative) trend for the City of Santa Monica.

Santa Monica and its police department will need to think about new strategies and/or methods to reverse the trend.
We're talking about SM, not L.A., so I don't know why you're bringing L.A. into this. BTW, did it occur to you that the LAPD is not being genuine in its crime stats? There was a story about it not long ago.

Additionally, you're faulting the SMPD for the increase in crime? So hows that work -- the SMPD should engage in stop & frisk and such? Yeah, I'm sure the local ACLU will be fine and dandy with that. And then there's the logical fallacy of blaming the SMPD in the first place, but I think you're aware of that...
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Old 02-02-2019, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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We're talking about SM, not L.A., so I don't know why you're bringing L.A. into this. BTW, did it occur to you that the LAPD is not being genuine in its crime stats? There was a story about it not long ago.

Additionally, you're faulting the SMPD for the increase in crime? So hows that work -- the SMPD should engage in stop & frisk and such? Yeah, I'm sure the local ACLU will be fine and dandy with that. And then there's the logical fallacy of blaming the SMPD in the first place, but I think you're aware of that...

You have reading comprehension problems...is Uni High to blame?
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Old 02-02-2019, 01:57 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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... you're faulting the SMPD for the increase in crime? So hows that work -- the SMPD should engage in stop & frisk and such? Yeah, I'm sure the local ACLU will be fine and dandy with that. And then there's the logical fallacy of blaming the SMPD in the first place, but I think you're aware of that...
Slow down and re-read the post. How do you come up with these conclusions?
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Old 02-02-2019, 07:58 PM
 
Location: West Los Angeles and Rancho Palos Verdes
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Slow down and re-read the post. How do you come up with these conclusions?
Astral Weeks stated that crime is allegedly down in L.A., then stated, "Santa Monica and its police department will need to think about new strategies and/or methods to reverse the trend." The implication is that if crime increases, the onus is on LEO's to mitigate it, and I do not agree with that premise.
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Old 02-02-2019, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Astral Weeks stated that crime is allegedly down in L.A., then stated, "Santa Monica and its police department will need to think about new strategies and/or methods to reverse the trend." The implication is that if crime increases, the onus is on LEO's to mitigate it, and I do not agree with that premise.
Not allegedly down in LA, actually down in 2018. Very hard to misrepresent homicides stats which decreased for the second year in a row and remain at generational lows. LA's crime rate was only brought into to this thread in reference to another poster's comment....which you missed which is fine.

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Additionally, you're faulting the SMPD for the increase in crime? So hows that work -- the SMPD should engage in stop & frisk and such? Yeah, I'm sure the local ACLU will be fine and dandy with that. And then there's the logical fallacy of blaming the SMPD in the first place, but I think you're aware of that...
You bumped right into that strawman. I never blamed SMPD for the recent spike in crime. I merely recognized the recent rising trend for what it is.

By the same token, I don't blame the LA Fire Department for starting fires around the city either! But defending the public against fires is their job and it is very reasonable to expect them to adapt to new challenges/circumstances.

Ditto for the SMPD. I'll be the first to state that broader societal trends are beyond law enforcement's control and the public should have reasonable expectations about what can and can't be achieved. But what is done on the margins can help make a difference.
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