WSJ says L.A. people selling homes, flocking to Phoenix and Vegas as tax realities set it (Laguna: unemployment benefits, wedding)

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by Burkmere

Here you go.....actual hard data...imagine that....LA is huge population-wise...I would hope their GDP would be greater than the Valley's metro area. LOL.
The great thing about LA and CA is that most of the growth in population is from the lower earning folks. It's become a two class state and increasingly Gavin and the politicians that benefit from a leftist government are going to have to keep raising taxes and fees....although they will have to keep some capitalism, because socialists need capitalists in order to survive....but as I said...good luck...I need you to keep afloat to pay my ridiculously high pension....

So, in a weird way I'm rooting for you folks...

//www.city-data.com/forum/phoen...gration-8.html

What in that thread supports your claim? And why don't you prove to us that most of the population growth is from lower earning folks?

More people left California (661,026) than arrived (523,131) from other U.S. states. But for the nation’s most populous state, with 39 million residents, that amounted to a tiny fraction in net departures: just 0.35%. Among the 25-years-and-older set, the state lost a net 86,890 residents without bachelor’s degrees, and just 4,443 with a four-year degree. It gained 11,653 people with graduate degrees. No state boasts more loudly of its attractions than Texas. Indeed, 63,174 people relocated from California to the nation’s second-most populous state, more than to anywhere else in the U.S. But it’s also true that no state sent more people here than the Lone Star State — 40,999. https://outline.com/Gd8pMh

The metropolitan areas with the largest shares of adults in upper-income households are mostly in the coastal areas of the Northeast and California. They tend to be in high-tech corridors, such as Boston-Cambridge-Newton, MA-NH, or in financial and commercial centers, such as Hartford-West Hartford-East Hartford, CT. San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA, where 32% of adults were upper-income, led among all areas in 2016. The area with the smallest share who are upper income is Lewiston-Auburn, ME (8%).

The metropolitan areas with the largest shares of lower-income adults are located primarily in the Southwest, with several on the southern border, such as McAllen-Edinburg-Mission, TX, and include farming communities in central California, such as Fresno, CA. In Laredo, TX, about half of adults (49%) lived in lower-income households in 2016, the highest share in the country. Ogden-Clearfield, UT, among the largest middle-class communities, also had the lowest share of lower-income adults (19%) in 2016. Middle class keeps its size, loses financial ground to upper-income tier | Pew Research Center

[kttam186290]

Originally Posted by MuscleCar

And you just proved "liberal tolerance" is a farce!

Nobody has to "tolerate" sexism, racism or homophobia. That's something you Republicans don't seem to understand?

Have fun in Arizona being as sexist, racist and homophobic as everyone else is.

[Burkmere]

Originally Posted by kttam186290

Nobody has to "tolerate" sexism, racism or homophobia. That's something you Republicans don't seem to understand?

Have fun in Arizona being as sexist, racist and homophobic as everyone else is.

Have fun stereotyping everyone in AZ. And thanks again for my huge pension. I don't want to stereotype everyone in CA as liberal, union loving, fiscally irresponsible socialists either. I'm sure there's some fine people there.

[kttam186290]

Originally Posted by burkmere

have fun stereotyping everyone in az. And thanks again for my huge pension. I don't want to stereotype everyone in ca as liberal, union loving, fiscally irresponsible socialists either. I'm sure there's some fine people there.

[MuscleCar]

Originally Posted by kttam186290

Nobody has to "tolerate" sexism, racism or homophobia. That's something you Republicans don't seem to understand?

Have fun in Arizona being as sexist, racist and homophobic as everyone else is.

The divide in America today is almost as deep as it was before the civil war

[sean1the1]

Originally Posted by MuscleCar

The divide in America today is almost as deep as it was before the civil war

It might be worse, I don't recall northerners moving south, and encouraging the south to succeed and defending slavery. Yet still trying to tell the north how to live.

[kttam186290]

Originally Posted by sean1the1

It might be worse, I don't recall northerners moving south, and encouraging the south to succeed and defending slavery. Yet still trying to tell the north how to live.

And that's what happens here...EVERY. SINGLE. DAY.


Right-wing Republicans leave California (fine), move to their vaunted Red States and then want to use the Senate and Supreme Court to impose their will on us Blue Staters.

[sean1the1]

Originally Posted by kttam186290

And that's what happens here...EVERY. SINGLE. DAY.


Right-wing Republicans leave California (fine), move to their vaunted Red States and then want to use the Senate and Supreme Court to impose their will on us Blue Staters.

Yup, my point exactly.

[payutenyodagimas]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

No one in California pays 13.3% on "everything they made" because only income over $1,074,996.00 is taxed at that rate.

only 160,000 filers pay that rate..which is more than 40% of all income tax received by the state

[dontbelievehim]

Originally Posted by City Guy997S

Paradise Valley is a small, affluent town in Maricopa County, Arizona. It is the wealthiest municipality in Arizona. The town is known for its luxury golf courses, shopping, and restaurant scene...........sounds nice to me!

and only 25 million for this place:
https://www.realtor.com/realestatean...-18281?view=qv

Only 25 million for that? Lol
So much better coastal awesomeness for that price, what a rip. You can find more interesting mountain mansions from all over the us for 1/4 those prices. From Asheville, to Utah, to New Mexico, etc. Hell, i'd take this 7 million dollar Fresno estate over that in a heartbeat. Helipad and vineyard are included.

https://www.californiaoutdoorpropert...0-1280x853.jpg