7 billion dollars to go to our worthless criminals.... (Los Angeles, Fortuna: insurance, schools)

[woogexx]

Meanwhile, hard working people who cant get or cant afford insurance are staying sick/getting sicker......I realize prisoners need care too. But I think their care should be only one notch (maybe half) above the care you would give to a dog. This country, especially this state is screwed.

California proposes $7 billion for prison healthcare - Los Angeles Times (http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-prisons12apr12,1,6020189.story?track=rss - broken link)

[LASam]

"We believe that this proposal will provide the necessary funding to implement a thorough, comprehensive plan by the receiver to achieve what both he and the governor want to accomplish," said H.D. Palmer, a spokesman for the state Department of Finance. "And that is to get health care in the state's correctional system to a constitutionally adequate level of care."


Mr. Palmer presents a compelling point. This is a really tough one though, due to the limited information. What is "constitutionall adequate care." How is this money going to be spent?

[slove1106]

Originally Posted by woogexx

Meanwhile, hard working people who cant get or cant afford insurance are staying sick/getting sicker......I realize prisoners need care too. But I think their care should be only one notch (maybe half) above the care you would give to a dog. This country, especially this state is screwed.

California proposes $7 billion for prison healthcare - Los Angeles Times (http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-prisons12apr12,1,6020189.story?track=rss - broken link)

And to add to it, the criminals are getting "improved" healthcare... but tons of schools are shutting down...? Way to budget our money California!

[JerZ]

Originally Posted by LASam

"We believe that this proposal will provide the necessary funding to implement a thorough, comprehensive plan by the receiver to achieve what both he and the governor want to accomplish," said H.D. Palmer, a spokesman for the state Department of Finance. "And that is to get health care in the state's correctional system to a constitutionally adequate level of care."

If adequate health care is constitutional then how come non-criminals don't automatically get it?

What a ridiculous way to put things...with the intimation that the prisoners should have rights to health care because it's constitutional. You don't notice the government providing health care to those who can't afford it on those grounds.

[missionhome]

Originally Posted by slove1106

And to add to it, the criminals are getting "improved" healthcare... but tons of schools are shutting down...? Way to budget our money California!

Tell me about it. My son's math teacher is going to loose her job and go broke and loose her health care, yet these criminals are going to get even better care. So we can't pay for schools, but suddenly we have all this money for criminal health care

[JTGJR]

But I think their care should be only one notch (maybe half) above the care you would give to a dog.

Dude or Dudette- duck and cover, the canine lobby's after your tail

Ditto LASam. Fortunately I have no first hand knowledge of the conditions in a prison "hospital." But something tells me that at least part of that $$ is needed. Remember, they're not ALL hardened criminals. And this is coming from me, a guy who's very pro-cop and anti-criminal.

[CESpeed]

I think we need another recall election.

[LASam]

I don't think he meant that the healthcare is a constitutional right. I think he means that cruel and unusual punishment is unconstitutional. If we imprison people and don't provide adequate healthcare for them, is that cruel and unusual? You be the judge!

[BRinSM]

Originally Posted by LASam

I don't think he meant that the healthcare is a constitutional right. I think he means that cruel and unusual punishment is unconstitutional. If we imprison people and don't provide adequate healthcare for them, is that cruel and unusual? You be the judge!

i think the same can be said for people who pay taxes and still don't have health care, is that cruel and unusual? i think we should start outsourcing our prisons to mexico. i know they've discussed shipping people off to other states, why not make it another country, that way the constitution is no longer applicable.

[Huckleberry3911948]

subcontract our penal system to Haiti, a boon to them & us.