City of Los Angeles plastic straw law (house, camps)

[looker009]

Here is interesting observation i made yesterday which made me more confused. Chick-fill-a have no problem having straws in the lobby. So who is following the law, McDonald's or those that leave straws out?

[MuscleCar]

Stupidest law ever, even by L.A. standards

[Des-Lab]

California is like the third grade bully in the schoolyard. He picks on the kindergartner (straws) because...."he can" and the little guy can't really fend for himself.

But he doesn't dare try and start a fight with the sixth grader (China, Mexico, etc) cuz he knows he'll get pummeled if he does.

[SOON2BNSURPRISE]

So the topic is Los Angeles straw law. People want to do the right thing and protect the environment. I get that, we don't want to live in a dump. The reality is that very little waste from the United States is the problem anymore. The majority of the plastic comes from Asia. Almost all of it comes from 10 rivers.

https://www.dw.com/en/almost-all-pla...ers/a-41581484

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by SOON2BNSURPRISE

So the topic is Los Angeles straw law. People want to do the right thing and protect the environment. I get that, we don't want to live in a dump. The reality is that very little waste from the United States is the problem anymore. The majority of the plastic comes from Asia. Almost all of it comes from 10 rivers.

https://www.dw.com/en/almost-all-pla...ers/a-41581484

True enough. But doesn’t excuse Americans from our own responsibilities.

[TravelingBoat]

And why ban straws in the first place. I have NEVER IN MY LIFE tossed a straw in the ocean. All of my straws go into the trash and wind up in the landfill. So why am I being denied a plastic straw?

[malcorub16]

Originally Posted by KazChasey

Meanwhile junkies in San Fran get their needles paid for by hard-working citizens and they get to just toss them in the street for your kid to come along and accidentally step on. But plastic straws are the real problem.

To make this apples to apples, the real question is, do they have to ask for the syringe and needle or are they automatically just given one.

Originally Posted by TravelingBoat

And why ban straws in the first place. I have NEVER IN MY LIFE tossed a straw in the ocean. All of my straws go into the trash and wind up in the landfill. So why am I being denied a plastic straw?

You are not being denied.

https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/...301-story.html

Los Angeles County approved a similar ordinance restricting plastic straws in December and it applies to as many as 1,300 restaurants and food businesses in unincorporated areas. Under the county rules, restaurants must ask customers if they want a plastic straw before giving one out. In the city, it would be up to the customer to make the request in a dine-in restaurant.

Originally Posted by looker009

Yes and i got a problem with that. Why should customer need to request one from the front. The action of the customer by picking up a straw is enough where they make a decision that they want to use one. Now in addition to asking for ranch, ketchup etc you need to ask for a straw.

OP, it is a cultural shift and you will get used to it. As long as there are no additional taxes like the hot dog tax in NYC, it is fine by me.

[Exitus Acta Probat]

When people throw away syringes, isn't that an environmental issue too? And if so, why are we not banning people from using syringes on the streets, where they end up getting washed into the sewers and harming sea life?

[malcorub16]

^ I don't condone this either, but it seems like the reactions are always the same. Homeless issues are always the scapegoat it seems when it comes to the topic of the environment or immigration. The second one regarding the environment is the argument regarding pollution from China and India and "what good does it do if they are still polluting."

I am ok with laws that change customs that harm the environment, as long as there is not a tax attached to it. I am not a big government type of guy, but sometimes society needs a nudge in a certain direction to keep it from harming itself.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by Exitus Acta Probat

When people throw away syringes, isn't that an environmental issue too? And if so, why are we not banning people from using syringes on the streets, where they end up getting washed into the sewers and harming sea life?

People aren’t “allowed” to use syringes on the streets. They just do. It is against the law to casually dispose them as litter. Period. Now you go run along and catch them and call the coppers! Take video! Fill out complaints ... go to court ... get these people locked up! Thank you so much!

In your spare time, Exitus, would you cite some actual reports / research of marine life being affected by disposed syringes? I am very interested to read about it. THANKS again!