Why so many covid 19 cases and deaths in LA County (Los Angeles: assessments, radio)

[goodheathen]

That's past, not present. (And in counties with worse healthcare systems where people often were infected without knowing it, which usually leads to resting at home.) Current hospitalizations due to vs. with Covid are counted, I just haven't heard the breakdown yet and assume it's not close to 50%. No matter how much people want to believe the virus has turned into the common cold, it hasn't and there's almost no evidence that it ever will.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by Exitus Acta Probat

"We Were Right: Experts Confirm COVID Deaths Massively Inflated, Actual Numbers Dramatically Lower Than Official Count"

quote: “In the midst of everything COVID, people were sort of putting down that cause of death as COVID … It is important to go back and do this accounting to see if COVID was actually the cause of death.”

Gandhi said that in July of 2021. What became of her "accounting"?

"The Western Journal is an online publication that presents news, commentary and analysis. Its mission is to focus on topics “that Heartland Americans care about” and “upholds traditional Christian values as articulate in the Bible.” The Journal, based in Phoenix, Arizona, includes content from Conservative Tribune, Liftable and The Wildcard."

https://adfontesmedia.com/western-jo...s-reliability/

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by Exitus Acta Probat

Is it a conspiracy theory?

We Were Right: Experts Confirm COVID Deaths Massively Inflated, Actual Numbers Dramatically Lower Than Official Count

https://www.westernjournal.com/right...fficial-count/

Or:

Governments have undercounted the COVID-19 death toll by millions, the WHO says
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsan...s-the-who-says



Your pick:
"The Western Journal is an online publication that presents news, commentary and analysis. Its mission is to focus on topics “that Heartland Americans care about” and “upholds traditional Christian values as articulate in the Bible.” The Journal, based in Phoenix, Arizona, includes content from Conservative Tribune, Liftable and The Wildcard."

or:
WHO as reported by NPR

[Exitus Acta Probat]

I'm not familiar with The Western Journal. But regarding the WHO, I'm inclined to believe the opposite of whatever they say.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/world-h...on-11586122093

If it pleases you people, we can look to MSN:

CDC Says It Accidentally Inflated Children’s COVID Death Numbers In ‘Coding Logic Error’

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...ror/ar-AAVfD63

Or here:

Health Care Providers Say COVID Hospitalization Numbers are Inflated

https://www.kitv.com/news/health-car...ef641f287.html

Or ABC:

Doctor goes viral saying COVID-19 numbers are inflated, RGV doctors disagree

https://www.abc4.com/coronavirus/doc...tors-disagree/

Or the foreign press, where sadly one has to go in search of the truth:

COVID-19: Why the recent coronavirus death figures are likely to be inflated

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...lated-12537298

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by Exitus Acta Probat

I'm not familiar with The Western Journal.

But you quoted it.

Originally Posted by Exitus Acta Probat

If it pleases you people, we can look to MSN....

Quoting numbers from Texas, links to news sources that say hospitalizations "may" be inflated or articles that "doctors disagree," and articles that claim that "Omicron has caused a problem in the way we measure deaths" are all suppositions.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by Exitus Acta Probat

… regarding the WHO, I'm inclined to believe the opposite of whatever they say. … <snip>

Why? What sources do you find more credible, and based on what judging expertise?

From the Smithsonian Magazine:

How to Avoid Misinformation About COVID-19

“… When shown untrue or misleading articles about COVID-19, only 30 percent of people recognized the news to be false, according to research published in the Washington Post by New York University and Stanford researchers. ..

../The site “Media Bias/Fact Check” rates various news organizations on “factual reporting” as well as ideological skew. Major health organizations such as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and World Health Organization (WHO) are among the most credible sources of information on the COVID-19 pandemic.… “

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/scien...-19-180974615/

[goodheathen]

The CDC has destroyed its reputation over the past year, and the WHO's reputation hasn't recovered from early blunders such as downplaying airborne spread.

Trust independent epidemiologists when their views seem to agree with one another. Be skeptical of much else. Assume that there have been too many deaths from the virus and don't get sucked into detours about statistics beyond numerical trends; the focus should be on protecting individual and widespread well-being.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by goodheathen

The CDC has destroyed its reputation over the past year, and the WHO's reputation hasn't recovered from early blunders such as downplaying airborne spread.

Trust independent epidemiologists when their views seem to agree with one another. Be skeptical of much else. Assume that there have been too many deaths from the virus and don't get sucked into detours about statistics beyond numerical trends; the focus should be on protecting individual and widespread well-being.

Oh. The Oracle has spoken …

[Exitus Acta Probat]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

But you quoted it.



Quoting numbers from Texas, links to news sources that say hospitalizations "may" be inflated or articles that "doctors disagree," and articles that claim that "Omicron has caused a problem in the way we measure deaths" are all suppositions.

I have no reason to believe the aforesaid published any false information. Do you?

[Exitus Acta Probat]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

Why? What sources do you find more credible, and based on what judging expertise?

From the Smithsonian Magazine:

How to Avoid Misinformation About COVID-19

“… When shown untrue or misleading articles about COVID-19, only 30 percent of people recognized the news to be false, according to research published in the Washington Post by New York University and Stanford researchers. ..

../The site “Media Bias/Fact Check” rates various news organizations on “factual reporting” as well as ideological skew. Major health organizations such as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and World Health Organization (WHO) are among the most credible sources of information on the COVID-19 pandemic.… “

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/scien...-19-180974615/

The WHO initially stated that Covid-19 originated from a "wet market", then pivoted towards "wildlife farms" as a source.

From NPR:

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsan...virus-pandemic

OTOH, I think the evidence has been overwhelming that Covid-19 originated at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.