No Dining at All Now (Los Angeles: medical, business, population)

[goodheathen]

Originally Posted by Cinema Cat

So wear one of those plastic face shields, if you're so worried about saliva particles. They'll protect you 100% even if someone spits at you.

Hell, wear a mask and a face shield. And a Hazmet suit to wear over the mask and face shield.

You are wrong. 100% protection would mean someone would not be able to breathe. The maximum, practical protection is therefore two people wearing masks.

[Mike930]

Originally Posted by goodheathen

You're doing the right thing that just 'helped' get Los Angeles on a new stay-at-home order.

Get out of here!

Meanwhile, any doctor knows this isn't a "mild flu."

Meanwhile, data from LA County shows less than 4% of cases are from restaurants in LA. The public health director can’t even say where people contracted COVID. So much for science and data. The restaurants were unfairly targeted and you are completely wrong.

According to this article Dr. Ferrer tried to justify the restrictions by citing an increase of citations at restaurants. However, more than half of the inspections were at restaurants.

Restrictions don’t even make sense. It seems like they’re trying to make it appear they’re trying to do something and needlessly ruining businesses in the process. People running around with their hair on fire don’t help anything.

Another article said 7.2% of cases were from government agencies.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abc7.co...ining/8235279/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fox...rants-bars.amp

COVID-19 Locations & Demographics - LA County Department of Public Health

[Cinema Cat]

Originally Posted by goodheathen

You are wrong. 100% protection would mean someone would not be able to breathe.

So buy some scuba gear and breathe through a portable air tank. But leave the rest of us alone.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by goodheathen

I'm making at least one assumption that is grounds for correction, but if a virus at all influenced a former Los Angeles police officer to move away from the city, LA is doing quite poorly.

Originally Posted by Patrolman

Your assumption is 100% correct.

Agree that it's not looking good for L.A.

Up to 15 Percent of LA’s COVID-19 Cases Come From Dining at Restaurants:
https://la.eater.com/2020/10/29/2153...ent-dining-out

“You’re sitting across the table from them — and you don’t have a mask on,” Dr. George Rutherford, epidemiologist and infectious diseases expert at UC San Francisco said of potentially coronavirus-carrying dining companions. “It’s all about mixing.”

Another concern among some public health experts is people often come from different households to gather at outdoor restaurant dining tables. A safer approach would be to keep dining parties limited to members of one household at each table, experts say, but such an effort has been impossible to enforce.

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...e-restrictions

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by Cinema Cat

So buy some scuba gear and breathe through a portable air tank. But leave the rest of us alone.

Um, the “rest of [you]” are in the minority. I realize you think your minority should call the shots, but that’s not the way things work.

Survey finds Americans are more united than divided on wearing face masks
Published: Oct. 17, 2020 at 10:42 a.m. ET
By Ciara Linnane
‘Our findings indicate that the vast majority of Americans recognize the value of masks in public spaces, whatever their political allegiances,’ say authors of new survey
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/su...sks-2020-10-14

[goodheathen]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

Agree that it's not looking good for L.A.

Up to 15 Percent of LA’s COVID-19 Cases Come From Dining at Restaurants:
https://la.eater.com/2020/10/29/2153...ent-dining-out

“You’re sitting across the table from them — and you don’t have a mask on,” Dr. George Rutherford, epidemiologist and infectious diseases expert at UC San Francisco said of potentially coronavirus-carrying dining companions. “It’s all about mixing.”

Another concern among some public health experts is people often come from different households to gather at outdoor restaurant dining tables. A safer approach would be to keep dining parties limited to members of one household at each table, experts say, but such an effort has been impossible to enforce.

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...e-restrictions

It's moot now. Leaders didn't do enough when the virus was mostly background spread. Now restaurants themselves cannot be allowed to operate for more than take-out in Los Angeles, where I can personally say that as of yesterday an employee was walking around in a small eatery with the mask not covering her mouth. I think that non-essential businesses are reduced capacity instead of already closed to protect them from going under and also to directly and indirectly avoid panic buying at stores.

[Exitus Acta Probat]

Originally Posted by Cinema Cat

So wear one of those plastic face shields, if you're so worried about saliva particles. They'll protect you 100% even if someone spits at you.

Hell, wear a mask and a face shield. And a Hazmet suit to wear over the mask and face shield.

I was trying to be informative and helpful in my previous post; now you're just being derisive.

[Cinema Cat]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

Um, the “rest of [you]” are in the minority.

Um, yourself.

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

I realize you think your minority should call the shots ...

Are you even paying attention to the conversation?

Anti-maskers don't want to "call the shots" for anyone. We want everyone to be free to call their own shots. Decide for themselves on whether to wear a mask.

It's the pro-mask people who want to "call the shots" for everyone else.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by Cinema Cat

Um, yourself.





Are you even paying attention to the conversation?

Anti-maskers don't want to "call the shots" for anyone. We want everyone to be free to call their own shots. Decide for themselves on whether to wear a mask.

It's the pro-mask people who want to "call the shots" for everyone else.

Yeah, I’m paying attention to your protests. You - the very noisy, yet considerably small minority (Roughly under 25% of the national population) - want to override the medical wisdom and vast majority of the population that supports medical wisdom, thus endangering everyone with your “Muh Freedumbs!” chanting.

Got it. Thanks for your adolescent divisiveness, making this mess last longer

[V8 Vega]

You should get scuba dive mask and tank.