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Old 05-09-2008, 08:53 PM
 
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Well, for me, I have lived in Los Angeles for 15 years and I am leaving at the end of the year. It is just not what it is cracked up to be at all. The traffic is awful, people are getting more rude, obnoxious and inconsiderate. I know this may not be politically correct, but frankly, I am sick and tired of everyone around me not being able to speak a word of English. In the supermarkets, you have to ask 10 people a question before you can find someone who speaks good to enough English to know that all you want to know is "What aisle is the toilet paper on?" I don't know, I just think we made a really wrong turn somewhere. I think everyone associates the city with glitz and glamor. The fact is that is nothing but a myth. Give me more green, fresh air and a place with fewer people and some of those people can at least smile once in awhile. If you aren't making at least $250,000 a year, you just can't live a decent life in this city, period.
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Old 05-09-2008, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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California houses more prisoners than any other state. I find that to be a problem. Maybe the "three strikes" law needs to be re-examined.
California also has a bigger population than any other state.
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Old 05-09-2008, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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Well, for me, I have lived in Los Angeles for 15 years and I am leaving at the end of the year.
Where are you moving to?

What about all these guys:
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Old 05-09-2008, 09:40 PM
 
Location: Long Beach, CA
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Default Greetings again

Being a free-spirit, who likes to exercise his constitutional rights, I've had numerous run ins with the police in uniforms. Give someone a uniform, a little bit of authority and a gun -- they turn into a Nazi. They can't help it; it's human nature, especially, if they're short.
This not to say that I haven't met lots of police I like. They are usually detectives or drunk at a bar. They don't have to worry about driving drunk; they live above the law. One detective I had a friendly exchange with was Steve Gates, the brother of Police Chief Daryl Gates who lost his job and was paid a large amount of severance because of the Rodney King affair. I was on my way to express MHO at LA City Council, and he offered to let me use his name to make sure I got a front row seat. He also offered to write me a reference letter any time I needed one. He was charming. But the thing I'll always remember was when he asked me where my car was. I told him I rode the train up from Long Beach. He said, "Revolutionaries always ride the train." "Dr Zhivago" had just been on television. I took it as a compliment. If somebody doesn't agitate, nothing will ever change. I want to change things.
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Old 05-09-2008, 10:45 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Being a free-spirit, who likes to exercise his constitutional rights, I've had numerous run ins with the police in uniforms. Give someone a uniform, a little bit of authority and a gun -- they turn into a Nazi. They can't help it; it's human nature, especially, if they're short.
This not to say that I haven't met lots of police I like. They are usually detectives or drunk at a bar. They don't have to worry about driving drunk; they live above the law. One detective I had a friendly exchange with was Steve Gates, the brother of Police Chief Daryl Gates who lost his job and was paid a large amount of severance because of the Rodney King affair. I was on my way to express MHO at LA City Council, and he offered to let me use his name to make sure I got a front row seat. He also offered to write me a reference letter any time I needed one. He was charming. But the thing I'll always remember was when he asked me where my car was. I told him I rode the train up from Long Beach. He said, "Revolutionaries always ride the train." "Dr Zhivago" had just been on television. I took it as a compliment. If somebody doesn't agitate, nothing will ever change. I want to change things.
Wow. No one becomes a cop for the right reason then? All cops are bad? Otherwise they are acting against human nature? Think about what you just said. I'm not a big fan of many cops either, but I know a lot more good ones than bad. Did you ever think that sometimes they have to act tough? If they show weakness they will be taken advantage of. Then there is no point of even doing the job.

Those cops are definitely acting like Nazi's if they end up saving your life though. I get it.
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Old 05-10-2008, 09:28 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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Holy cow! I had no idea I've been married to a criminal for 23 years!
Well you've heard that crime pays, right? Can't be that bad...
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Old 05-10-2008, 09:54 AM
 
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I've live here since 1976 and this is not the same California I moved to many years ago. What is wrong with this state is the socialist politicians in Sacramento who are nothing but a bunch of crooks. They spend spend spend and they sure don't represent me or my views. The majority of them are sneaky and underhanded. That was made clear during the past elections in February. Assembly Speaker Fabian Nunez and Senator Don Perata authored Proposition 93 which would extend their term limits in office, but the bill was presented by them to us as doing the complete opposite. I was happy to see California voters were paying attention and defeated Prop 93. Come December 43 of California's politicians will be hitting the unemployment line and Nunez and Perata will be going with them. We basically put together our own mini recall. Unfortunately for the tax payers the damage has already been done and who is left holding the bag will be us the tax payers who will be feeling it in the form of increased taxes. You see what is happening in California is the middle class is disappearing, that is happening now. What will be left in this state will be the rich and the poor. And if someone wants to deny this is happening then your not paying attention. There are other dynamics that have flushed this state right down the toilet which are not to be discussed in this forum and has it's own place but you don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out what I'm talking about especially if you live in Southern California.
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Old 05-10-2008, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Long Beach, CA
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I find this to be true of government jobs all across America.



California houses more prisoners than any other state. I find that to be a problem. Maybe the "three strikes" law needs to be re-examined.

Other states that adopted Cali's "3 strikes" law have regretted it severely and are trying to overturn it. Massive overcrowding is a danger to the guards. People aren't supposed to live 4 to a cell. It's not normal and will make you crazy (if you haven't lost it already).
Somebody "in the know." You know prisons are just Universities for crime, and that CA uses its citizens of the lower echelons of society to provide middle class jobs for people who support the status quo. "Three strikes" is not only sad; it's criminal.
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Old 05-10-2008, 10:23 AM
 
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That post has a hue of elitism in it, at least from my perspective. You think teachers must earn more, because they are better educated than LE or Corrections Officers? If that were even true, that's not how the value of someone's work is measured. (And the comment about no officers having a university diploma is categorically incorrect).

LE Officers are risking their lives to protect the public. Corrections Officers also risk their lives each day they show up for work and subject themselves to the kind of treatment by society's finest that I doubt any teacher would tolerate for even a day. Did you know that our precious inmates have this little game they play with the guards, where they save their feces for weeks, and when it's good and rotten, they fling it at the guards? Our schools may have some unruly kids, but that doesn't even come close. LE and Corrections Officers don't get a summer vacation, and they aren't singing songs to five year olds. They are working with the sort of people most probably will never encounter in their charmed lives.

FWIW, Prop 13 doesn't need to be fixed - how about fixing our porous border and revoking Special Order 40? It would save our state's Public Education costs immeasurably. For added measure, I would love to see the Teachers Union's wings clipped and have their lobbying curtailed or entirely stopped. Like that's going to happen....one can only dream.....

In the HS district I live in, they have already wasted/invested $7 mil in legal fees to fight the secession of a feeder school district which the State had already approved of. That is but one example of myriad wasteful mismanagement of taxpayer's money that the schools are ever-hungry for. False sense of entitlement, anyone?
Best post Ive read on this sight for awhile! kudos!!
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Old 05-10-2008, 10:49 AM
 
Location: So Cal
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Default Good Comments.

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That post has a hue of elitism in it, at least from my perspective. You think teachers must earn more, because they are better educated than LE or Corrections Officers? If that were even true, that's not how the value of someone's work is measured. (And the comment about no officers having a university diploma is categorically incorrect).

LE Officers are risking their lives to protect the public. Corrections Officers also risk their lives each day they show up for work and subject themselves to the kind of treatment by society's finest that I doubt any teacher would tolerate for even a day. Did you know that our precious inmates have this little game they play with the guards, where they save their feces for weeks, and when it's good and rotten, they fling it at the guards? Our schools may have some unruly kids, but that doesn't even come close. LE and Corrections Officers don't get a summer vacation, and they aren't singing songs to five year olds. They are working with the sort of people most probably will never encounter in their charmed lives.

FWIW, Prop 13 doesn't need to be fixed - how about fixing our porous border and revoking Special Order 40? It would save our state's Public Education costs immeasurably. For added measure, I would love to see the Teachers Union's wings clipped and have their lobbying curtailed or entirely stopped. Like that's going to happen....one can only dream.....

In the HS district I live in, they have already wasted/invested $7 mil in legal fees to fight the secession of a feeder school district which the State had already approved of. That is but one example of myriad wasteful mismanagement of taxpayer's money that the schools are ever-hungry for. False sense of entitlement, anyone?
Nothing but good comments. I think teachers are really important and do good things. That being said I've never seen a bigger bunch of winers than teachers. I know a few and all they do is complain about everything. If they ever overturn Prop 13 I would sell my house. It would be hard to pay the taxes. They really need to fix the border and control the amount of people they let in legally. The school systems suck, hospitals are starting to close. I could go on and on. If you say anything about this issue you are branded a racist.
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