LAPD Still Won't Get Vaccinated (Williams: discount, money, doctor)

[mcp86]

Originally Posted by Nyfinestbxtf

The federal government has zero Constitutional authority to mandate a covid shot or any shot for that matter. Btw, we are not a democracy and majority doesn’t rule. Our Founders spoke ill against democracies and majority rules. It is clear in the Electoral College. That is why we are a representative republic. There is no mob rule. And what makes you believe the majority of Americans choose vaccine mandates?

https://news.gallup.com/poll/354983/...-mandates.aspx

[Nyfinestbxtf]

Originally Posted by goodheathen

This is 2021. Extremists are common, albeit maybe less so in the Northeast. Some of them have been uncovered in LAPD, and I like that this vaccine issue might be the undoing of their employment.

At least we know that almost everyone who gets the vaccine has solid short-term protection against COVID-19. People who claim natural immunity seem unwilling to demonstrate that immunity with testing, which at the very least would be needed for a temporary vaccination waiver. Furthermore, the government doesn't need that burden of added processing; they should get vaccinated instead, it won't harm them.

So someone who is employed with a police department who refuses to be vaccinated is an extremist? That’s absurd. You have no idea how effective natural immunity is compared to the vaccine. You just do not know that. We do know that there is natural immunity. How many breakthrough cases have their been of those who have been previously infected with covid? How many of them have been hospitalized and died?

[Nyfinestbxtf]

Originally Posted by mcp86

https://news.gallup.com/poll/354983/...-mandates.aspx

Lmao

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by Nyfinestbxtf

So someone who is employed with a police department who refuses to be vaccinated is an extremist? That’s absurd. You have no idea how effective natural immunity is compared to the vaccine. You just do not know that. We do know that there is natural immunity. How many breakthrough cases have their been of those who have been previously infected with covid? How many of them have been hospitalized and died?

I had a covid breakthrough case and two doctors told me that immunity from having covid lasts between 3 and 8 months, that's consistent with what I've read about it. Police officers who refuse to get vaccinated should just politely resign and go get another job, maybe in Alabama or Texas, they will be welcomed there, probably even celebrated as heroes

[VaughanWilliams33]

So let's assume that poll is true, would you want to force something against 40% of the population? That's extremely dangerous. I think that's exactly what they want, to distract people from the wealth transfer going on.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by Nyfinestbxtf

The federal government has zero Constitutional authority to mandate a covid shot or any shot for that matter. Btw, we are not a democracy and majority doesn’t rule. Our Founders spoke ill against democracies and majority rules. It is clear in the Electoral College. That is why we are a representative republic. There is no mob rule. And what makes you believe the majority of Americans choose vaccine mandates?

Oh so it's unconstitutional? Maybe you should read Jacobson vs. Massachusetts

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/197/11

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by BMW R1100

I'm a baby-boomer who lived during the polio scares. You didn't see anyone then saying they didn't want the vaccination.

Good point. Same with when California mandated the smallpox vaccination for children in public schools over a century ago.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by VaughanWilliams33

So let's assume that poll is true, would you want to force something against 40% of the population? That's extremely dangerous. I think that's exactly what they want, to distract people from the wealth transfer going on.

I'll take the risk, I'm tired of all these rebels without a cause trying to turn this into a fight. 40% of the population will not be rioting in the streets over this, that's just silly

[goodheathen]

Bribes didn't work to get the general population vaccinated, and I don't know what specifically could have been used to do that with LAPD and of course so-called incentives would have had to been offered to other municipal employees.
https://consumer.healthday.com/10-15...655279812.html

Education, sure, except that wasn't particularly effective. Hence, mandates.

[VaughanWilliams33]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

I'll take the risk, I'm tired of all these rebels without a cause trying to turn this into a fight. 40% of the population will not be rioting in the streets over this, that's just silly

I don't think you really understand what that would mean. You're basically saying you're fine with massive unrest -- far worse than anything we saw in 2020.