Is Los Angeles Magical? (San Diego, Glendale: apartments, crime, layoffs)

[Green Irish Eyes]

You and Radical Raul need to talk .....

[moxieman2]

Originally Posted by richierichh

Whenever there is a list of most desirable cities, LA is *ALWAYS* at the end, behind New York, San Diego and San Francisco.

The people coming here are mostly illegal immigrants who have no choice, or people who are relocated for jobs.

I can see how NYC, San Francisco and San Diego could be magical (S.D. and it's typical "SoCal lifestyle", San Francisco and its charm, and New York and it's cosmo/glitz/$$/opportunities). LA is good, but you must be high if you think this ugly, smoggy, illegal ridden dump is anywhere near a top desirable spot.

It amazes me that you aparently read through my entire post, yet you still cannot produce an answer to the question for which it was written...

Let me get this straight, you think LA is ugly, smoggy, and illegal ridden....yet New York is great, LOL, have you actually even been to either one. Please, if you DO live in LA, do an MLS search for Utah or Wyoming, because the only drawback that I see in LA is the fact that individuals like you are staying and complaining....such a drag.

And also, to EscapeCalifornia, if your blood pressure truly rises before you get on the ground in LA, you REALLY should leave....Thats just not healthy....

[EscapeCalifornia]

Originally Posted by Userdavey

[i][b]I know when I go there I get a feeling like no other. Walking around Manhattan Beach is just Paradise. Driving along the Strip at night? With the billboards? OMG that is so cool. I think that if you don't like the look of the Hollywood hills and all the signs and the flat streets and the palm trees you really really really have total brain damage. You do.

And you KNOW I haven't even scratched the surface of all the cool things that visually just blow me away out there. Even just seeing a palm tree just literally perplexes me. LA is like another planet. Another dimension. I can't even believe it's real.

And the traffic and congestion? Oh I am sure that it sucks real real hard. But to me, that's like saying I hate my kids because they don't always make their bed. Or they get a bad grade. Or they say a swear word. It doesn't even come close to making any difference whatsoever. Not in a milion years.

Spend 10 years fighting the traffic and congestion and high cost of living and tell me it doesn't matter. You've made a few trips to LA and think its a paradise. This is why there's so many people here. They make a trip in January when its cold and icy back home, move here without knowing what the day to day reality is like, then turn into one of those miserable people TheRealAngelion wrote about. You moving to LA for the palm trees and billboards and saying that none of the bad stuff matters would be like me moving to Colorado Springs and saying the icy roads, no ocean (if I were a beach person), no freeways, lack of ethnic restaurants, etc are completely irrelevant as long as I can see Pike's Peak.

[EscapeCalifornia]

Originally Posted by moxieman2

And also, to EscapeCalifornia, if your blood pressure truly rises before you get on the ground in LA, you REALLY should leave....Thats just not healthy....

I AM making plans to leave but until you want to start a collection, I'm going to have to work to put myself in a financial position to do it. I'm not going to be one of these people that runs off to another city with $500 in my pocket and hope things work themselves out.

[buckeyenative01]

I fail to see how SD has anymore of a "typical SoCal lifestyle" than LA?

[Userdavey]

Originally Posted by EscapeCalifornia

Spend 10 years fighting the traffic and congestion and high cost of living and tell me it doesn't matter. You've made a few trips to LA and think its a paradise. This is why there's so many people here. They make a trip in January when its cold and icy back home, move here without knowing what the day to day reality is like, then turn into one of those miserable people TheRealAngelion wrote about. You moving to LA for the palm trees and billboards and saying that none of the bad stuff matters would be like me moving to Colorado Springs and saying the icy roads, no ocean (if I were a beach person), no freeways, lack of ethnic restaurants, etc are completely irrelevant as long as I can see Pike's Peak.

The only problem with that statement is that Pike's Peak is a big frozen rock. Home prices aren't astronomical because they have a view of it. At best, it's a small thing you will hear realtors try to use to pump up the value of a house. Do you guys out in LA go gaga over the mountain views? You think people flock to Pike's Peak like they do the beach? You go up Pike's Peak and there's a gift shop and snack bar and you get altitude sickness and you realize that maybe .00001% of the population could ever survive at 14,110 feet.

See, the only pro here, a big frozen rock, is not a pro at all.

[EscapeCalifornia]

Originally Posted by buckeyenative01

I fail to see how SD has anymore of a "typical SoCal lifestyle" than LA?

Maybe more of what people think the lifestyle should be. ie. less crowded, less expensive, less violent, less crazy in general than LA.

[Radical Raul]

After being born and raised here, unfortunately I now find L.A. to be mostly gray and gloomy, with people consumed trying to be something they are not.

[EscapeCalifornia]

Originally Posted by Userdavey

The only problem with that statement is that Pike's Peak is a big frozen rock. Home prices aren't astronomical because they have a view of it. At best, it's a small thing you will hear realtors try to use to pump up the value of a house. Do you guys out in LA go gaga over the mountain views? You think people flock to Pike's Peak like they do the beach? You go up Pike's Peak and there's a gift shop and snack bar and you get altitude sickness and you realize that maybe .00001% of the population could ever survive at 14,110 feet.

See, the only pro here, a big frozen rock, is not a pro at all.

I love seeing the mountains out here, on the dozen or so days a year the smog parts enough to see them, even though they're nothing compared to the Rockies. My point is that you're trying to justify suffering a million bad things in LA with some pretty unimportant things like looking at palm trees and the Hollywood sign. Palm trees don't pay the bills unless you're a landscaper. I've never once though, "Wow this 20 mile drive taking 2 hours isn't so bad as long as I can see the palm trees."

[Userdavey]

Originally Posted by EscapeCalifornia

I love seeing the mountains out here, on the dozen or so days I year the smog parts enough to see them, even though they're nothing compared to the Rockies. My point is that you're trying to justify suffering a million bad things in LA some pretty unimportant things like looking at palm trees and the Hollywood sign. Palm trees don't pay the bills unless you're a landscaper. I've never once though, "Wow this 20 mile drive taking 2 hours isn't so bad as long as I can see the palm trees."

So according to you, there are no pros. The weather, diversity, food, culture, entertainment, beaches, and palm trees just aren't good enough? I'm just sayin....