06-28-2009, 03:35 PM
Location: Dallas, TX
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Hi,
My wife and I are considering moving to the LA/Orange County for some time due to my job. I have been there a few times and just love the area in general, all the way from Santa Monica to West Hollywood to as far as Newport Beach. I understand in LA-terms, these are far from each others and comprise of diffrent worlds. Hence this thread. I have been looking at a few factors, and need your guys help in understanding deterimining the best area(s) for us. Here are factors going into our decision:
* I will work in La Palma/Buena Park area. I know it's a 25 mile trip from Redondo Beach, 18 from Long Beach on the coast, and about 12 from Huntington Beach.
* As you can probably gather :-) we MUST live walking distance from the beach. If we are moving all the way from land-locked Dallas to California, we will not settle for not living by the beach. I know we can get a decent 1 bedroom in Huntington Beach for about $1,400-$1,600 which we are willing to pay for beach-style living. Redondo Beach about $1,600, and Long Beach same but may be closer to some bad neighborhoods.
* I want to be within 45 mins drive to LA/Hollywood as such the look into Redondo or Long Beach as opposed to Huntington Beach.
* We want "quietness" but not to be too secluded, close to good nightlife and restaurants, but not to be woken up by partying drunks all throughout the night.
* We are newlyweds with no kids, looking to live and have fun while working for the next 1-2 years.
Any input? We appreciate it!
06-28-2009, 04:13 PM
Location: Vancouver, WA
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I spent 40 years living and working in these areas.
South Redondo would be my first choice. There is so much to do down there and it doesn't get as crouded as Huntington Beach = funnel for all inland OC beach goers. Huntington Beach is also party town USA. So it can get pretty loud. I would skip Huntington Beach since there is such an abundance of what you said you would like to avoid. Now for the frat kids sharing a beach house and wanting to surf and party the night away its great.
Long Beach is much larger with some nicer parts such as Belmont Shores and more *really* bad sections with shootings, prostitution, and drug dealers a plenty. Also most locals don't think of Long Beach as real beach in that there are no waves. Now if you don't care about going in the water and bodysurfing, bodyboarding, surfing, etc... then it may not be as important. However it does seem dirtier to me because the water is so stagnant and it closest to the large tankers constantly coming in and out of the LA Harbor.
If you really want to enjoy the beach then water pollution levels or rather lack there of should be a definate consideration. Check out 'Heal the Bay' and other organizations which monitor local ocean pollution levels. Even if you don't go 'in' the water the pollution will effect the beaches. If the water is really dirty there will be more trash, dead birds, tar, etc... along the shore. Then there is the excess 'human' element which can really trash out the beach. For example the beaches with the most ppl tend to be the trashiest. Even with city cleanup, ppl who do not respect the environment can leave the place a mess - soda cans, lunch leftovers, cigarettes, etc...
This is another reason I prefer South Redondo. It just seems cleaner overall. Lastly South Redondo is the most scenic IMO.
Even though we are living in Monterey now, I look back on this area with particular fondness.
However many of the other SoCal beaches I wouldn't even want to visit anymore. The pollution has gotten really bad and the crouds gets really old especially when the weather is good. Don't get me wrong the other beaches aren't bad necessarily. They have just changed too much from what they used to be for me as a local native of the area.
My 2c,
Derek
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06-28-2009, 05:22 PM
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the belmont shore area of Long Beach is great. If you want to surf as another said you'll need to go to seal (a short bike ride away). If you don't need to surf alamitos bay is adjacent to belmont shore and many people swim, kayak, sail, ets. you might also look at my area (Naples Island). it's between belmont and seal and is pretty fun/nice. It is close enough to belmont where the night life is (within walking distance) but a lot quieter. Nice place with homes on the bay and canals but you could rent an offwater place. check it out.
FYI, in terms of water quality Long Beach gets high rankings east of belmont pier and in alamitos bay. west of the pier as another said is rather stagnant due to the breakwater (which by the way I hope will be reconfigure in the next few years)
of the three, i like belmont the best then redondo then HB.
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06-28-2009, 05:45 PM
Location: Vancouver, WA
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Here is the link to the data:
Beach Report .
Select Los Angeles. Then zoom in to the individual beaches and reports. Next check out the Historical Data. The reason this is important is that while a beach may have an ok water report 'today' it may have had several closures or poor grades in the not too distant past. Usually grades get much worse after a rain since much of the pollution spills over into the ocean from city 'runoff.' The overall trend throughout the year is what is most important.
Derek
06-28-2009, 06:57 PM
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Check out Marina Del Rey. My girlfriend and I are moving there from Oklahoma City. It seems to be a nice affordable quite area. Close enough to Venice and all the other hot spots.
06-28-2009, 07:04 PM
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funny i really am a fan of hb...it gets a bad rep from time to time a lot of the times im not really sure why, none the less... i really love it...the beach area and downtown is great...lots of great restraunts and action...im not a drinker or a partier, but there are certainly plenty of places to have fun...the great thing about hb is it borders newp. and sunset/seal, and then long beach, and plus you will be working 12 miles away, so that is another plus...I am from maryland but have spent a lot of time in hb, and for that matter all over socal, and hb is pretty much my favorite place to be. Lots of things to do and it also borders other great areas...
Also, i just saw where you wanted quiteness...sunset/seal beach area borders h.b and happen to be pretty quiet areas...i would really look between h.b and seal beach...pm me if i can help you any other way.
take care
Wish you the best with your choice.
06-28-2009, 08:13 PM
Location: South Bay
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marina del rey is too far from buena park and is not really affordable per se. deals can be found, but in general, it is a rather expensive area.
i would go with belmont shore if i were you, as long you as you aren't a surfer. otherwise seal beach is real nice and smack between long beach and huntington beach.
06-28-2009, 09:04 PM
Location: Vancouver, WA
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marina del rey is too far from buena park and is not really affordable per se. deals can be found, but in general, it is a rather expensive area.
i would go with belmont shore if i were you, as long you as you aren't a surfer. otherwise seal beach is real nice and smack between long beach and huntington beach.
Agree about MDR distance. Redondo is the furthest you will want to drive.
Seal Beach is a really nice alternative and not as crouded as Huntington Beach. It is more of a family type layed back beach town. Of course it is quieter and may be a little slower pace than what the poster is looking for. But I would rather live in a quieter area like that and drive a short distance to 'the action' than live right in the middle of it. Nothing beats a good night sleep close to the sea. Hearing the ocean and its associated sounds vs. rowdy ppl is always preferred.
06-28-2009, 09:40 PM
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funny i really am a fan of hb...it gets a bad rep from time to time a lot of the times im not really sure why...
HB or 'Surf City' has a colorful history and an earned reputation which has always leaned toward the wild side.
Here is one example for those who were around to remember the riot that occured way back when:
Huntington Beach Riot . Of course that was a long time ago. But the area's rep did come from its history and the hords of ppl it attracks for various reasons.
06-28-2009, 09:46 PM
Location: RSM
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Redondo is a hell of a drive, and since the 91 doesn't extend to the 405, it's an extra hassle.
If you're limiting yourself to Long Beach or Huntington Beach, I would choose one of them. coastal Huntington is crowded and loud, but the western side of the city is quiet suburbia. Coastal Long Beach is busy, but not rowdy.
Also, like others mentioned, I would look at Sunset Beach, Surfside, and Seal Beach. Seal Beach may be the only place in the price range you mentioned, and is quiet while still having youthful appeal.
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People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)