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Old 08-08-2009, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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To be completely honest, seeing as though none of us know this person, none of us have the right to challenge his or her move. Of what Im reading, they have made up their mind that LA is where they want to live, and what is in question is the car situation and gang activity.

I know I personally would feel a bit taken back if someone told me that my best option for work was in porn. Please be aware that some of us have a bit of sefl respect. Yeah, the job situation sucks out here. But I would rather suggest someone working in Burger King than porn.

I have been living in LA for about a month, without a car. Now Im in West Hollywood, but I ave seriously have no problems at all getting around. I am a walker, so I have no problems with walking longer distances. And when I dont feel like it, there is a decent public transportation system here
are you working, and if so, how are you getting to work? The OP will be attending LACC he says, he has no money and is not going to be living all that close to the campus. Facts are facts, you may be able to make it work, good for you, but for most, right now isn't the time to be moving to L.A. especially without a job. The OP asked what we thought, we are giving our opinion. What should we say? More power to you, everything will be just fine!!!!???? Actually he didn't ask for opinions, he asked about the area he would be living in, but I think it is only fair to let him know what he will be up against. If he is bound and determined to move, good for him, but at least he knows the situation before he arrives.

Nita

 
Old 08-08-2009, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Thanks for ALL the input lol its much appreciated. Heres the situation. I would be moving around 500 S bonnie brae st FYI. After doing some thinking Ive come to the conclusion im going to come out to LA an visit for a few weeks and catch a vibe of the city, see if its even a place I would WANT to live.

Minnesota is not so bad but the cold winter SUCKS...its unbearable. As far as paying for college, grants and loans basically. The thing is my parents want to give me some money but I am refusing it because I dont want them financing my life. I have to make it on my own, sure Ill take a little help (like the plane ticket to get there) but after that I want it to be up to me. They are spreading themselves thin enough as it is with the minimal help I accept, let alone what they want to give me to go. I just dont want to blow it. Right now im eligible for 5k$ in grants for school.

The thing is im somewhat of a survivalist which means I like to have some backup stuff (water, firearm, basic survival stuff). And where would I store/put these things if I just go out there with a duffle bag and no vehicle? How am I going to haul around grocerys an cases of water/food on a bus and walking through hoods. My next problem is personal safety. California has some seriously Moderator cut: language conceal an carry laws which burns my Moderator cut: language. They let all these thugs run around shooting but you gotta jump through burning hoops as a law abiding private citizen to carry a handgun. Anyway with that little rant aside, Im still on the fence. Like I said Im going to take a little vacation out there for a couple weeks and check out the scene and go from there.
Great idea, go and check out the areas, the cost of living and whatever else you need to help make a good decision.

Nita
 
Old 08-08-2009, 09:02 PM
 
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1.) You can open carry in California. For a long time cities would arrest you anyway under the presumption that if you have ammo on your person you are carrying a "constructively" loaded gun, but due to too many law suits, have started following the law correctly. So you can carry a gun in a holster.

BUT....I wouldn't do it. LA is a place where you should most often avoid trouble...usually by staying out of areas where you don't belong and recognizing when things don't appear right and leaving the area. Carrying a gun around is just asking for so much unnecessary trouble.

Which all leads to number 2....

2.) That area of the city...500 S. Bonnie Brea is a crap hole. WTF is wrong with you? Why in the world are you seeking to live in that area? Yes it is MS-13 territory and not far from 18th Street and Temple Street gangs. Its near McArthur Park which is the most densley population part of the United States west of St. Louis, and mostly filled with Salvadorian immigrants. No you should not live there. And its going to be hard for you to find a job in that area if you don't speak spanish or korean.

The one and only bright point is that it will be easy for you to take the subway to LACC. Just a couple block walk to the station across from McArthur Park and then a short ride to Vermont/Santa Monica.

But god watch your back going to and from the subway. Sheesh.
 
Old 08-08-2009, 11:21 PM
 
Location: The land of Chicago
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stay in MN for now this is coming from someone who spent a whole summer in LA
 
Old 08-09-2009, 12:09 AM
 
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Thanks for ALL the input lol its much appreciated. Heres the situation. I would be moving around 500 S bonnie brae st FYI. After doing some thinking Ive come to the conclusion im going to come out to LA an visit for a few weeks and catch a vibe of the city, see if its even a place I would WANT to live.

Minnesota is not so bad but the cold winter SUCKS...its unbearable. As far as paying for college, grants and loans basically. The thing is my parents want to give me some money but I am refusing it because I dont want them financing my life. I have to make it on my own, sure Ill take a little help (like the plane ticket to get there) but after that I want it to be up to me. They are spreading themselves thin enough as it is with the minimal help I accept, let alone what they want to give me to go. I just dont want to blow it. Right now im eligible for 5k$ in grants for school.

The thing is im somewhat of a survivalist which means I like to have some backup stuff (water, firearm, basic survival stuff). And where would I store/put these things if I just go out there with a duffle bag and no vehicle? How am I going to haul around grocerys an cases of water/food on a bus and walking through hoods. My next problem is personal safety. California has some seriously Moderator cut: language conceal an carry laws which burns my Moderator cut: language. They let all these thugs run around shooting but you gotta jump through burning hoops as a law abiding private citizen to carry a handgun. Anyway with that little rant aside, Im still on the fence. Like I said Im going to take a little vacation out there for a couple weeks and check out the scene and go from there.
I strongly suggest that everyone check out any place first before deciding to move there - wise decision Mr. Minneapolis!

If your priority is to get away from Northern winters, check out Huntsville, AL. If your knowledge of Alabama is the sterotype, most folks might laugh at the thought, but I was born & raised in CA and I won't leave Sweet Home Alabama to move back to CA, especially not to an area these posters are describing.

Huntsville/Madison County, is known as "The Rocket City", home of the Von Braun team of Rocket Scientists, Redstone Arsenal, Cummings Research Park,... almost everyone here is from somewhere else, the most "Southern" thing about it is housing affordability. But state laws still come out of Montgomery, so your fire arm will probably feel right at home.

Lots of young adults here attend community college on their ~$5K pell grant, it typically covers all school expenses for full time enrollment including books in most programs (maybe not nursing, med books, stethoscopes,.. ). A bus. major is likely to even some even get a little cash back. Work part time in fast food, rent a room or efficiency apt for a couple hundred a month and life is not bad. There are even some state programs that will add more $$ to your coffers for certain "in demand" majors.

Your biggest problem will be not having wheels; public transportation is nearly non-existent.

Good Luck !
 
Old 08-09-2009, 07:25 AM
 
Location: UK
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I would forget about LA. I would stay at home and get my university degree, with the help of my parents, and make sure that I majored in something that would make me marketable. After that, then I might consider a move to LA when I got a entry level job offer.

Otherwise, you go to LA, you could seriously be looking at becoming homeless.
 
Old 08-09-2009, 08:08 AM
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Location: Denver
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I did this when I was 24 too, you will learn a lot but you will be back home in less than a year, probably 6 months. I don't regret it though, just leave your bag half packed .
 
Old 08-09-2009, 11:03 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Thanks for ALL the input lol its much appreciated. Heres the situation. I would be moving around 500 S bonnie brae st FYI. After doing some thinking Ive come to the conclusion im going to come out to LA an visit for a few weeks and catch a vibe of the city, see if its even a place I would WANT to live.

Minnesota is not so bad but the cold winter SUCKS...its unbearable. As far as paying for college, grants and loans basically. The thing is my parents want to give me some money but I am refusing it because I dont want them financing my life. I have to make it on my own, sure Ill take a little help (like the plane ticket to get there) but after that I want it to be up to me. They are spreading themselves thin enough as it is with the minimal help I accept, let alone what they want to give me to go. I just dont want to blow it. Right now im eligible for 5k$ in grants for school.
Sounds good. I'd say you're better off not wasting money on a trip - just move there. Since school is paid for thru loans and grants, just go, and once you're there find a job. Once you have a job, save up to buy a cheap econobox "hooptie" or clunker or jalopy (whatever they call it in Minn.). You should be able to find one on Craig's list for 1 or 2 thousand, something reasonably reliable, like an old civic or accord or camry or even a hyundai.

After you're there one semester, or even year, of college, you can reevaluate. If worse comes to worse, you just move home, no big deal. Plus you will have college credits that transfer.

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The thing is im somewhat of a survivalist which means I like to have some backup stuff (water, firearm, basic survival stuff). And where would I store/put these things if I just go out there with a duffle bag and no vehicle? How am I going to haul around grocerys an cases of water/food on a bus and walking through hoods. My next problem is personal safety. California has some seriously Moderator cut: language conceal an carry laws which burns my Moderator cut: language. They let all these thugs run around shooting but you gotta jump through burning hoops as a law abiding private citizen to carry a handgun. Anyway with that little rant aside, Im still on the fence. Like I said Im going to take a little vacation out there for a couple weeks and check out the scene and go from there.
Don't bring a firearm, it's illegal in L.A. I thought you wanted to live in L.A.??

You're already whining about their laws and it's not even your home. That's just stupid. If you hate L.A.'s laws so much that they burn your ______, then why move there? Doesn't make sense.

When will people like you understand that L.A. is not a Minnesota forest wilderness, and people don't normally run around with guns out there? It sounds to me like you're already going there with negativity and unrealistic expectations.

It's a major city, dude. Most people live a city lifestyle there. That means getting around on public transportation (yes, WITH groceries), not stockpiling weapons or supplies as if a blizzard will leave you stranded, not relying on a gun so much as LAPD for protection.

I've been to L.A. many times and never, ever with a gun. And guess what? No criminals were chasing me around with guns of their own. Imagine that!

Bottom line - you're young enough that you should just move there, because if it doesn't work out, you're young enough to go back to Minn. and start over. On the other hand, you sound WAAYYYYY too conservative and backwoods-ish to find a big city like Los Angeles enjoyable. I mean, are you serious? Carrying around cans of food on buses?? If you want to stockpile supplies, then face the fact that you're going to have to go for a few months without that stuff till you can get a car.
 
Old 08-10-2009, 12:16 AM
 
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Thanks for the tips everybody. Yeah I want to carry a gun, why? Because psycho's are everywhere and having one for protection doesnt make me a wilderness backwoods Minnesotan. Im not talking about carrying cans of food on the bus Im talking about transport of normal day to day grocerys and the like.

I live(d) in downtown Minneapolis, without a car, so I have an idea of what living in a "big" city is like. But then again Minneapolis sure as heck aint LA, LOL and there I could get away with walking with hands full of grocerys, a backpack with my life in it and a decent chunk of change in my pocket without worrying about getting robbed or beaten by gang members. And yeah thats with using public transport. But again, Mpls aint LA. While LA might not have blizzards it can suffer from earthquakes, societal breakdown/riots etc...so its best to be prepared in my book.

And to the guy who gave me the headsup about the address, THANKS A BUNCH. That seriously helps me out...my bro was being evasive about it saying "oh well you just gotta see how it is for yourself" blablabla. But I had a feeling it was a grimey neighborhood.

So basically heres what Im doing, gonna get a "vacation" package which includes a hotel/ticket/car rental and come out for a couple weeks and peep the scene. If things click, well Ill go from there. If not, I have backup plans. Which leads me to my next question(s):

Any suggestions as to some decent hotels in the LA area?

Also, How far away is Sylma? Found a decent 10 day package for about a grand thats all inclusive.
 
Old 08-10-2009, 12:50 AM
 
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I was born and raised in Minneapolis (never drove there, and grew up in a family where the car was never used for things like grocery shopping) and later lived in LA without driving. LA public transportation is generally safe. I regularly brought groceries on the bus or subway (although more often just shopped closer to home) in LA (and Mpls, for that matter) and never had problems, even when I was going through some of the neighborhoods that do have higher levels of crime. Lots of people do, so don't worry about that. But, like others have pointed out, your neighborhood isn't known for its safety, but the problem will not be the public transportation. Still, I think your concerns about being robbed or beaten by gang members is a bit overblown. Yes, LA has crime, but it's not quite as wild as you may be imagining. I wouldn't walk around with wads of cash, but really, that's asking for trouble in any city, Minneapolis included. To perhaps provide some context, during my time in LA I was never mugged, never witnessed a shooting, and never saw a riot. During that time in Minneapolis my family almost drove through a drive-by shooting, my mom was mugged, their neighbor was robbed at gunpoint, their other neighborh got a bullet hole in her back fence, and there were riots near the U. I only mention that to show that stereotypes aren't necessarily the reality, and maybe dispel a bit the myth that LA is all gangbangers and criminals (so many people have either the stereotype that it's either all rioters and gangbangers or all rich glamorous celebrities) because LA is a big city and does have crime, and does have a major gang problem, but it's not the wild west, either. Your proposed neighborhood is one of the worst places to live if you're looking to avoid trouble, but you could find something safer but still affordable if you head north closer to your school. Stick along the Red Line and you'll easily be able to get to and from school without a car.

Are you talking about Sylmar? That's kind of a long way out from where you're hoping to stay/go to school. Can't you just stay with your brother (or friend? Whoever it is that you're thinking of living with)? That would give you a chance to get a good sense for the specific neighborhood, as well as put you closer to the action.

Hollywood has some fairly affordable hotels. Some are nicer than others, of course. There's a Motel 6 on Whitley that my family used to stay at. It was one of the cheaper motels around, but not in the ultra-shady category. It's a half-block off of Hollywood Blvd and within walking distance of both the Hollywood and Vine and Hollywood and Highland Red Line (subway) station, plus lots of buses. Parking costs money, though, so you'd either have to factor in that cost or be prepared to possibly spend more time than you'd like cruising around looking for free parking. On the other hand, if you stayed there you could skip renting the car, get around by bus and train, and maybe only rent a car for a day or so when you want one from one of the rental places in Hollywood.
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