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Old 09-03-2010, 02:29 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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I have never been called for jury duty. *knocks on wood* However, for about five years I was active duty military, so I would automatically be excused anyway. If it's any consolation, when I was in the military, I once got called for urinalysis once a month for about six months straight (not including company-wide ones). I think they were trying to bust someone who had a social security number similar to mine in some way, since they can't single a person out directly.
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Old 09-03-2010, 10:18 AM
 
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I've been called for later this month. I'd say it's been 2-years since I last had to report. Frankly, it sucks. There are two LA court houses within 4 miles of my home, yet they call me for downtown.
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Old 09-03-2010, 10:30 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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There are two LA court houses within 4 miles of my home, yet they call me for downtown.
You can request to have your service moved to another court house.
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Old 09-03-2010, 11:34 AM
 
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You can request to have your service moved to another court house.
Yes, for hardship. I will request it, but I can't prove a hardship case.
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Old 09-03-2010, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Yucaipa, California
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I have been summoned for jury duty many times over the years & never served once. I had legit excuses & a few times i just ignored the summons.

The state of ca only pays $15.00 each day you serve jury duty + milage one way. Thats pathetic & discusting.

New York state pays around $40.00 a day + milage + lunch.

If you get a jury duty summons & ignore it the county court house CANT prove you received it. Mail does get lost/stolen everyday & summons are not sent certified mail or signature required.

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Old 09-03-2010, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Living on the Coast in Oxnard CA
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Can they prove that you recieved the summons?

You can serve a maximum of once a year.

You can be called to serve on a Grand Jury and that is once a week for a year.

In Ventura County when you are called you don't go in. You are given a group number and you check in during the week by phone. If they call your number then you go to the courts to spend all day sitting in a waiting room. The Ventura Courts have added a hot spot so you can take your lap top and continue to visit City Data Forum.

If they pick you from the jury pool and bring you into a court you can still get out of it by asking the judge. Not that it always works. If you still want to get released you can wear select clothing to Jury duty. I like my NRA cap. Also if they ask about weapons let the Lawyer know that you are a collector and have many guns and knives. Let them know that you are a regular at a shooting range. Works great if it is a case involving guns or knifes. Another tact is to let the Lawyers think that you believe anyone entering a court house must be guilty of something so this must be the chance that the law has to actually work and put the scum bag away.

I am not advocating that you belive all that stuff, just that it seems to work at getting people off jury duty.
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Old 09-03-2010, 01:38 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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Can they prove that you recieved the summons?
How would they prove anybody received anything sent via first class mail? Or in other words, no, they can't prove it, not unless they start sending via registered mail. (This should be obvious. Maybe you meant that as a rhetorical question.)


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If they pick you from the jury pool and bring you into a court you can still get out of it by asking the judge. Not that it always works. If you still want to get released you can wear select clothing to Jury duty. I like my NRA cap. Also if they ask about weapons let the Lawyer know that ...
None of this crap should be necessary. The system does not benefit by having jurors who don't want to serve. A simple statement to the judge that you don't want to be there and won't be a good juror should be enough. It would be crazy to force the issue only to have the juror say in the end, "I don't know, I can't make up my mind." That would waste far more time for everybody concerned than simply picking some other potential juror.

I used to want to serve but I always got rejected by the lawyers during vor dire. I never once got to sit on a jury. Upon giving the matter thought I decided that the lawyers (both sides) rejected me because I'm an engineer. I think they didn't want me because they don't want people with scientific training or the ability to think things out logically, and would rather have people who can be swayed by emotion and who can be manipulated. Or maybe not, but I never came up with any other explanation why I was always rejected. So at some point I decided to quit playing their silly game and I've never served since. Might have something to do with my unreliable mail service.
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Old 09-03-2010, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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There should never be "professional jurors" - that is the whole point of the jury system. So that you dont get these "people" who only serve as a juror (bias, political beliefs, religious beliefs).

The point of a jury is that you get a cross section of the public. So you dont get a stacked jury selection that would weigh one way or another on an issue.

What happens if the "professional" jurors are all people who knew a woman who was raped and the upcoming case is about a rapist?

Anyway,

You can be called every year, or not at all.

What you fail to understand is with a professional juror, emotion would not fit into the equasion.
They do this for a living, and they have no bias one way or the other.
Their job as with the current system is to not be bias in any way, and to make a judgment call strickly on the evidence presented.
That unfortunately does not happen with the "public pool".
Jonn q. pulic rules with his emotions, and with a professional juror, it is his or her job to rule on evidence alone, not emotion.
The pre training cource would encompass this problem with ruling on emotion.
It is a system that would work in any state in the country, it is long overdue, and one day in the future, it will be professional jurors only.
Bob.
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Old 09-03-2010, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Living on the Coast in Oxnard CA
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How would they prove anybody received anything sent via first class mail? Or in other words, no, they can't prove it, not unless they start sending via registered mail. (This should be obvious. Maybe you meant that as a rhetorical question.)




None of this crap should be necessary. The system does not benefit by having jurors who don't want to serve. A simple statement to the judge that you don't want to be there and won't be a good juror should be enough. It would be crazy to force the issue only to have the juror say in the end, "I don't know, I can't make up my mind." That would waste far more time for everybody concerned than simply picking some other potential juror.

I used to want to serve but I always got rejected by the lawyers during vor dire. I never once got to sit on a jury. Upon giving the matter thought I decided that the lawyers (both sides) rejected me because I'm an engineer. I think they didn't want me because they don't want people with scientific training or the ability to think things out logically, and would rather have people who can be swayed by emotion and who can be manipulated. Or maybe not, but I never came up with any other explanation why I was always rejected. So at some point I decided to quit playing their silly game and I've never served since. Might have something to do with my unreliable mail service.
Wow, hard time recognizing humor? Sure it is obvious that they don't know if you got the notice. And just telling the judge that you don't want to be there may not be what is needed to get off the jury. Sometimes it is much easier to have one of the counselors toss you off the jury. Still you have to admit it sounded funny what I said. You know what would be funnier? Having a 70 year old woman say it. LOL
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Old 09-03-2010, 05:23 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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And just telling the judge that you don't want to be there may not be what is needed to get off the jury.
I don't see why not. Judges are not elected and/or appointed because they are idiots. I'm sure every judge has seen a reluctant juror. What could make less sense than forcing that person to serve on a jury? Particularly when that reluctant juror decides to even the score.

I think the only thing required is for a person to stand up in court and say, "Your honor, I really don't want to be here and if you force me to be here I will mess up your trial." What kind of idiot judge would want that? (It would take a lot of 'balls' to say that in open court.)

Let's face it. Some people are not suited to be jurors, and some of them even know that.

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Still you have to admit it sounded funny what I said.
It didn't sound funny at all to me. I don't even understand why you think what you said is funny.
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