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Old 01-09-2010, 11:58 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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The Senate's proposed healthcare bill does not bode well for the state of California, most specifically L.A. County.
Immigration reform and the healthcare debate - latimes.com
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Old 01-09-2010, 12:16 PM
 
Location: South Bay
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interesting article. i know some people say that we shouldn't be treating undocumented people to begin with, but that isn't going to change regardless of any new health care reform.
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Old 01-09-2010, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Yamhill County
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Cool Go for it California

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The Senate's proposed healthcare bill does not bode well for the state of California, most specifically L.A. County.
Immigration reform and the healthcare debate - latimes.com

Hell, you're bankrupt and can't afford the folks you got now... Another 15 million welfare cases ought to help!!!
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Old 01-09-2010, 01:01 PM
 
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I love how the LA Times' answer is always to legalize criminals and encourage another wave of people to become criminals.
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Old 01-09-2010, 01:05 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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I love how the LA Times' answer is always to legalize criminals and encourage another wave of people to become criminals.
Do you think that's what Rutten meant? My interpretation of the article is that with the Senate's bill, there will be far less in federal subsidies to the uninsured--a large majority of whom are undocumented workers--and that L.A. has one of the highest numbers of these workers in the country.
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Old 01-09-2010, 01:08 PM
 
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From the end of the article:

"More farsighted participants in this process already are arguing that to make a real difference -- particularly in California -- these changes in the healthcare system need to be followed by comprehensive immigration reform that includes a path to citizenship for the nation's 12 million undocumented residents, something else President Obama has promised. The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops made that point in a news conference this week.

Another UCLA study released this week examined the aftermath of Ronald Reagan's 1986 amnesty for some 3 million undocumented immigrants and found that the benefits to the economy were striking. Using that as a benchmark, the researchers concluded that if the currently undocumented population was allowed to regularize its status, it would add $1.5 trillion to our gross domestic product over the next decade.

Thus, immigration reform would go a long way toward paying for healthcare reform -- if we can summon the political will to accomplish both."


Yep, sounds like another call for amnesty to me.
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Old 01-09-2010, 09:13 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Another UCLA study released this week examined the aftermath of Ronald Reagan's 1986 amnesty for some 3 million undocumented immigrants and found that the benefits to the economy were striking.

That study just happened to be authored by a pro-illegal-alien professor of "Chicana and Chicano Studies" at UCLA. Having this guy, Raúl Hinojosa-Ojeda, conduct a study on the effects of illegal immigration is like having Marlboro conduct a study on the health effects of cigarettes.
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Old 01-09-2010, 11:34 PM
 
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Another UCLA study released this week examined the aftermath of Ronald Reagan's 1986 amnesty for some 3 million undocumented immigrants and found that the benefits to the economy were striking.

That study just happened to be authored by a pro-illegal-alien professor of "Chicana and Chicano Studies" at UCLA. Having this guy, Raúl Hinojosa-Ojeda, conduct a study on the effects of illegal immigration is like having Marlboro conduct a study on the health effects of cigarettes.
Is there a source that states that Hinojosa has "pro-illegal" leanings?
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Old 01-10-2010, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Yes, it's called the OReilly factor on fox news.
He is on about twice a month spouting his insane views as to why illegals shoud be given everything we citizens have, including health care.
He is a jerk with a capital "J"
Bob..
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Old 01-11-2010, 09:48 PM
 
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A youtube link or a link to written material would be very helpful. Then we can determine his credibility and/or his sentiments.

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Yes, it's called the OReilly factor on fox news.
He is on about twice a month spouting his insane views as to why illegals shoud be given everything we citizens have, including health care.
He is a jerk with a capital "J"
Bob..
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