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Old 02-07-2010, 04:00 AM
 
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'' When I moved to SF from LA I was surprised at how small the gay population is here. At least gay male culture. It is super dominant in LA...especially in the hollywood/celebrity/ beauty world. They even have their own Mafia. LOL.

The gays pretty much dominate the glitzy glamourous culture in LA that I have never seen in San Francisco, plus the gays in LA are HOT!!! I mean...these guys are strutting around outside up and down SM Bl. looking perfect and gorgeous. Never seen anything like that in SF.

The only time I ever see gays in SF outside of the tiny Castro area is at Bloomingdales. I think West Hollywood is almost as big as the entire city of San Francisco, and that is only 1 of the many gay centric neighborhoods in LA.

I would guess there are more gays in Palm Springs than San Francisco.

That being said, SF does have amazing gay pride festivites. Definitely destination worthy. ''
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Old 02-07-2010, 08:48 AM
 
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That's pretty funny.

Certainly in the '70s '80s '90s lots of gay kids left their smaller or mid-western towns to come to LA or SF, where they could be more free. But is that still true? It seems to me that these days, fewer kids move to LA strictly to be part of a gay scene.

In fact, some of the big discussion these days is if West Hollywood dying as a gay space. It used to be that the presence of the gays kept property and rent low, because nobody wanted to live near them, but, WeHo is crazy expensive now; it is not the place for a new arrived boy from Needles or Peoria to start a new life. Also, with the internet and online dating, it is less important to have places like that for older gay people to meet.

But, yes, Los Angeles still has a huge gay population. It hard to know, since the census doesn't really ask those questions, but, there are still a lot of gays in West Hollywood, Hollywood, Silverlake, Venice Beach. It is a bit of an exaggeration that all people in fashion, make-up, interior decorating, and design are gay, but there is a lot of them (us) there, and there is a lot of that type of work in Los Angeles.

But it seems that, for now, society is becoming more comfortable with the idea of homosexuality. And as a consequence, there is less force behind the idea to uproot and go to LA or SF or NYC, or to choose certain professions. And, (while in gay circles I might be crucified for saying so) I think that as the level of persecution has gone down, gay society has gotten more healthy: less drugs, less promiscuity, less desperation in general.
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Old 02-07-2010, 10:00 PM
 
Location: NoHo (North Hollywood)
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It's funny that you say that Amelia because now that you brought it up, you may be on to something there. And this is based purely on walking the streets of San Francisco and walking the streets of LA. When I visit San Fran, I don't see the obvious gays walking down the street. There may be a sprinkling of them, but not like I would have thought considering SF is supposed to be gay central. Now if you walk around WeHo, there are gays a plenty and they're not afraid to show it either. As a gay man myself, I would be happy to have LA take the crown from SF.
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Old 02-07-2010, 11:37 PM
 
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Puro o.c.
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Old 02-08-2010, 06:00 AM
 
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That's pretty funny.

Certainly in the '70s '80s '90s lots of gay kids left their smaller or mid-western towns to come to LA or SF, where they could be more free. But is that still true? It seems to me that these days, fewer kids move to LA strictly to be part of a gay scene.

In fact, some of the big discussion these days is if West Hollywood dying as a gay space. It used to be that the presence of the gays kept property and rent low, because nobody wanted to live near them, but, WeHo is crazy expensive now; it is not the place for a new arrived boy from Needles or Peoria to start a new life. Also, with the internet and online dating, it is less important to have places like that for older gay people to meet.

But, yes, Los Angeles still has a huge gay population. It hard to know, since the census doesn't really ask those questions, but, there are still a lot of gays in West Hollywood, Hollywood, Silverlake, Venice Beach. It is a bit of an exaggeration that all people in fashion, make-up, interior decorating, and design are gay, but there is a lot of them (us) there, and there is a lot of that type of work in Los Angeles.

But it seems that, for now, society is becoming more comfortable with the idea of homosexuality. And as a consequence, there is less force behind the idea to uproot and go to LA or SF or NYC, or to choose certain professions. And, (while in gay circles I might be crucified for saying so) I think that as the level of persecution has gone down, gay society has gotten more healthy: less drugs, less promiscuity, less desperation in general.
I just hope that everybody becomes private ...
I just hate how some gays seem desperate and want to make society GAY

I mean I'm okay with them but I hate the '' Hello I'm Ben and I'm gay '' and the '' in your face '' attitude ...

Don't worry I hate those desperate heteros too

I really don't want the '' gay scene '' having way too much presence like it has in the culture and in the movies ( come on now you have to be blind to not notice the gay thing in Hollywood ) ...

Not too mention the gay extremes ( too effimate and the '' gay jock '' or hypermasculine ) scare me out

My idea of a perfect society ? In public asexuality with celibacy image

No do NOT get it wrong I'm not asking not to have sex
But I would really love it if heteros and homos alike would just quiet it down

Almost like a quietness and a privacy
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Old 02-08-2010, 06:07 AM
 
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It's funny that you say that Amelia because now that you brought it up, you may be on to something there. And this is based purely on walking the streets of San Francisco and walking the streets of LA. When I visit San Fran, I don't see the obvious gays walking down the street. There may be a sprinkling of them, but not like I would have thought considering SF is supposed to be gay central. Now if you walk around WeHo, there are gays a plenty and they're not afraid to show it either. As a gay man myself, I would be happy to have LA take the crown from SF.
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Old 02-08-2010, 06:09 AM
 
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That's pretty funny.

Certainly in the '70s '80s '90s lots of gay kids left their smaller or mid-western towns to come to LA or SF, where they could be more free. But is that still true? It seems to me that these days, fewer kids move to LA strictly to be part of a gay scene.

In fact, some of the big discussion these days is if West Hollywood dying as a gay space. It used to be that the presence of the gays kept property and rent low, because nobody wanted to live near them, but, WeHo is crazy expensive now; it is not the place for a new arrived boy from Needles or Peoria to start a new life. Also, with the internet and online dating, it is less important to have places like that for older gay people to meet.

But, yes, Los Angeles still has a huge gay population. It hard to know, since the census doesn't really ask those questions, but, there are still a lot of gays in West Hollywood, Hollywood, Silverlake, Venice Beach. It is a bit of an exaggeration that all people in fashion, make-up, interior decorating, and design are gay, but there is a lot of them (us) there, and there is a lot of that type of work in Los Angeles.

But it seems that, for now, society is becoming more comfortable with the idea of homosexuality. And as a consequence, there is less force behind the idea to uproot and go to LA or SF or NYC, or to choose certain professions. And, (while in gay circles I might be crucified for saying so) I think that as the level of persecution has gone down, gay society has gotten more healthy: less drugs, less promiscuity, less desperation in general.
Heteros are in the internet , in the bars and everywhere ( I'm hetero msyelf )
Gays are in the internet
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Old 02-08-2010, 09:47 PM
 
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Amelia, are you 90? I can't imagine any person under the age of 90 thinking like this. Unless they were a bigot.

Perhaps you should move to the mid-west or to Sarah Palin's "America". Or, better yet, get a boyfriend. Or a girlfriend. Dependent upon what you like.

Los Angeles is a diverse community comprised of many wonderful diverse people from all backgrounds. Don't worry about others. Just worry about yourself. And lady - you have plenty to worry about. Intolerance for one thing.

And what in the $#@& are you talking about with the "gaying of Hollywood"? I think you've been going to the wrong movie theaters.
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Old 02-10-2010, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Glendale/Los Angeles
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That's interesting..! I thought too that SF was more of a gay community than West Hollywood..! I guess that's another stereotype..?
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Old 02-11-2010, 01:58 AM
 
Location: Palm Springs, CA
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My idea of a perfect society ? In public asexuality with celibacy image
That sounds awful to me.

One of the things I like when I watch Spanish-language TV is how the people seem more outwardly sensual. I love that Latin men and women are more comfortable with their sexuality than the average white American.
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