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Old 02-20-2010, 08:29 PM
 
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How is this city (for working in the public schools)??
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Old 02-20-2010, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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How is this city (for working in the public schools)??
Are you asking what is it like to live in the city of EM if you work in the public schools?
Or, are you asking what is working in the EMCSD like?
Or, are you asking what the employment outlook is for working at EMCSD?

What are you asking?
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Old 02-20-2010, 11:27 PM
 
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What is EMCSD like? And/or what is the city like in general!
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Old 02-21-2010, 12:23 PM
 
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Blue collar latino mostly. Some asian. Not very good. One of the more run down cities in San Gabriel Valley. Similiar to Duarte or Azusa. Better than East LA, a little worse than Pico Rivera.
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Old 02-21-2010, 01:49 PM
 
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There are two school districts in El Monte. The southeastern part of the city has the Mountain View district, but I guess you are just asking about the El Monte district.

Lots of good, willing, sweet, hardworking kids. Many of them are learning English as their second language. You'll see some gangster evidence by about 5th-6th grade in parts of the city.

I started my career with a year of substituting in El Monte, but that was a long time ago. There was a big difference from one school to another. In general, the further south and the further west, the rougher the school and the lower the test scores. But the school that was the farthest south and west (and lowest scores) turned out to have the best-behaved, nicest kids I'd seen all year. (They just didn't speak much English.)

A few years ago I knew someone who was teaching in El Monte. It seemed like the district was working hard to keep kids from falling behind. They had kids coming in after (or before? I don't remember) school for extra help, which they expected teachers to provide. In my opinion, that's a good thing. But if you are teacher looking for a cushy job (no such thing!), you wouldn't like it. I would consider teaching in El Monte.

El Monte is probably 70-75% Latino, 15% Asian, most of the rest white.

People like to look down on El Monte. It doesn't have a great reputation, and parts of it may be run-down. But parts have improved. It hasn't been able to attract major stores and restaurants, and many of the people are low-income, but there is less crime and less gang activity than 20 years ago. I lived there from 1985 to 2007 and loved it.
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Old 02-21-2010, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Blue collar latino mostly. Some asian. Not very good. One of the more run down cities in San Gabriel Valley. Similiar to Duarte or Azusa. Better than East LA, a little worse than Pico Rivera.
I would call that a fair comparison..El Monte has always had problems, back to the 40s and 50s and it hasn't gotten any better, but there are a few areas that are not too bad. I don't think Azusa is quite as bad, Duarte maybe so or a little worse. To the OP, what are you looking for in a city? It is a little hard to discribe anyplace just by anwering "what is it like"?

Nita
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Old 02-22-2010, 08:07 AM
 
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After reading some of your other posts, I don't think you'd like living in El Monte - or most of the San Gabriel Valley. Try Pasadena.

You still might like teaching in El Monte, though.

When people say El Monte is "not very good," I'm not sure what they mean. Crime rates are below national averages (as in most San Gabriel Valley cities), so it isn't that.

Maybe the population density? Some El Monte houses do have a lot of people in them.
The poverty? Yes, on average, the people of El Monte make less money than those in Arcadia, Glendora, and San Dimas. It doesn't make them bad people.
The lack of shopping and fine dining? I don't think most people really care which city they eat in, since the cities all run together anyway.
Shopping carts left on the sidewalk? Maybe.
Mothers pushing strollers and leading small children? In my opinion, that's a good thing.
Run-down? Been there lately?
Gangs? What city doesn't have gangs? They don't go around harassing people, and the police have made progress.
Blue collar? Is there something wrong with that?
Latino? Is there something wrong with that?

So I've heard that El Monte has a bad reputation, but even after living there for so long, I don't know what it is for.

But, as nmnita said, OP, you haven't told us what you're looking for.
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Old 02-22-2010, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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After reading some of your other posts, I don't think you'd like living in El Monte - or most of the San Gabriel Valley. Try Pasadena.

You still might like teaching in El Monte, though.

When people say El Monte is "not very good," I'm not sure what they mean. Crime rates are below national averages (as in most San Gabriel Valley cities), so it isn't that.

Maybe the population density? Some El Monte houses do have a lot of people in them.
The poverty? Yes, on average, the people of El Monte make less money than those in Arcadia, Glendora, and San Dimas. It doesn't make them bad people.
The lack of shopping and fine dining? I don't think most people really care which city they eat in, since the cities all run together anyway.
Shopping carts left on the sidewalk? Maybe.
Mothers pushing strollers and leading small children? In my opinion, that's a good thing.
Run-down? Been there lately?
Gangs? What city doesn't have gangs? They don't go around harassing people, and the police have made progress.
Blue collar? Is there something wrong with that?
Latino? Is there something wrong with that?

So I've heard that El Monte has a bad reputation, but even after living there for so long, I don't know what it is for.

But, as nmnita said, OP, you haven't told us what you're looking for.
Possibly part of El Monte's reputation comes from years back. It has never been known for having good schools, has always been in the lower income level and though progress has been made, there is still a long way to go..As for blue collar and lower income, you are right, this does not make people good or bad, but many people, if they can afford it would prefer areas that are more middle class and upper middle class. Again, it depends on what the OP is really looking for. What is right for one person may not be right for another.

Nita
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Old 02-22-2010, 11:10 PM
 
Location: Anaheim
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I would call that a fair comparison..El Monte has always had problems, back to the 40s and 50s and it hasn't gotten any better, but there are a few areas that are not too bad. I don't think Azusa is quite as bad, Duarte maybe so or a little worse. To the OP, what are you looking for in a city? It is a little hard to discribe anyplace just by anwering "what is it like"?

Nita
I can remember my dad talking about El Monte back in the '70s when I was a kid. He was talking about how there were a bunch of "Okies" there (in fact, according to Lavender's book about California, the area was settled by a number of quarrelsome, corn-growing Texas families).

But I actually ended up in a pretty neat-looking neighborhood there on the way back from L.A. (taking the scenic route from dad's )....I think it was somewhere in the north central part of the city.

Even if El Monte doesn't have all the hip, upscale places for shopping and dining, Arcadia borders it on the north. There are also Temple City and Rosemead that have desirable places for eating at least. And Pasadena isn't much farther either.

Besides, they have been putting up fresh new street signs. That should give some hope!!!!!

Try to stay north and east, though.

A friend of mine lived with her family on Merced Ave. years ago. Their neighbors would actually steal their stuff from them at times (while they were out, etc.)

Doesn't matter what the color of someone's skin is or where they fit in the socio-economic spectrum; it matters what they DO.

"Trash" is "trash".

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Old 02-23-2010, 02:16 AM
 
Location: Pasadena
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On a personal note, I was in a fight with Monte Flores gang members a few years ago; my older brothers & I kicked butt El Monte is just like everyone has mentioned. Sort of quiet in a way but people get drunk at night w/ the usual ruckus. That part of the San Gabriel valley is sort of poor like where I live in east Pasadena.
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