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Old 11-21-2014, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Nebraska
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There is also nothing I can say to change yours.
I stated facts. Marriage was based on survival, having kids who could mend the farm and take car of the parents.
Prostitution brings crime to neighborhoods where it's located, so it does have an effect on your life. Selling children means they are kidnapped, therefore your children could be kidnapped. Terrible analogy (you relate gays to prostitution and selling kids?!). Gay couples simply want the advantages others have. There is nothing they do which negatively impacts your life.

Universally? Umm think again, 33 states allow same sex marriage. 33 States with Legal Gay Marriage and 17 States with Same-Sex Marriage Bans - Gay Marriage - ProCon.org
And the regressive states are soon to follow the path into 2006, I mean 2010.
As we as humans learn and grow, we progress and this is a part of it. Catching on?
Most Americans think your insane, but ignorance is bliss.

Most of the 1st world, westernized countries have same sex civil unions. Where Is Gay Marriage Legal? Marriage Equality Laws Become Norm In US, But Some Western Countries Still More Progressive
And out of the thirty three states that recognize same sex marriages how many did so because voters actually voted on it and passed it? Usually it is some Liberal Judge or Court that has made it legal.

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Old 11-22-2014, 01:24 AM
 
Location: Lafayette, La
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Just legalize it and be done with it.
lgbt community deserves these rights same as anyone. This is 2014.
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Old 12-04-2014, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Southwest Louisiana
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Im cool with gay marriage as long as the church does not have to perform it. If a church performs a gay wedding, it should be their own choice.
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Old 12-04-2014, 08:45 PM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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Im cool with gay marriage as long as the church does not have to perform it. If a church performs a gay wedding, it should be their own choice.
While we're at it, they should be taxed accordingly. They are just a business.
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Old 12-05-2014, 05:19 AM
 
Location: Southwest Louisiana
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Taxed for being a non profit business or taxed strictly for not doing a ceremony?
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Old 12-05-2014, 06:04 AM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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Non-profit? The Bentley's and helicopters would beg to differ.
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Old 12-05-2014, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Im cool with gay marriage as long as the church does not have to perform it. If a church performs a gay wedding, it should be their own choice.
And no church has ever, nor will ever, be required to bless a wedding that their own doctrine doesn't support. The same-sex marriage issue is a matter of CIVIL, legal marriages, not religious ones.

Note how even before now, Catholic Churches can require people who are divorced to get the first marriage "annulled" (even if it lasted many years and there were children) before marrying them legally. That certainly has no legal weight, but the church is free to make whatever rules it wants to give a church-sanctioned marriage. The same will be true with same-sex marriages (who would want to get same-sex-married in a church that doesn't want to perform it, anyway??)
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Old 12-05-2014, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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And out of the thirty three states that recognize same sex marriages how many did so because voters actually voted on it and passed it? Usually it is some Liberal Judge or Court that has made it legal.
Most Civil Rights strides have been passed by judges or Executive Orders, not popular vote; that's why we have THREE branches of government.

Women would never have gained the right to vote if it had been put to a popular vote (of an all-male voting population). Black people would not have achieved Civil Rights if it had been put to an (all-white) vote. The whole premise of the US Government structure is to protect minorities from "tyranny of the majority".
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Old 12-05-2014, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Southwest Louisiana
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Non-profit? The Bentley's and helicopters would beg to differ.
I see your point, though the pastor of the church that I attend does not have a private jet (at least not that I know of ) Then again, I don't go to a mega church.
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Old 12-05-2014, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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I see your point, though the pastor of the church that I attend does not have a private jet (at least not that I know of ) Then again, I don't go to a mega church.
Are you familiar with the large church in Darrow? The name of the pastor escapes me but this man has 2 Bentley's (one gifted by his lawyer), a jet, and a mansion. People still give this man money in church, it sickens me.
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