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Old 11-30-2010, 10:54 AM
 
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They've been talking about building a bridge for like 20 something years, right~? Do they really need to have a toll installed too~? Hey we are behind the times compared to Cali and NY, like 10 years. I do like the way the city was, and now we have too much traffic as it is, and so many people who don't know how to use a turn signal and drive anyways. It's just going to be more traffic than we can handle as it is. At least things good things have came thru the years of the 1960-1970's, where we have gasoline stations and groceries open more hours than back then. Anyways, if a bridge was built maybe the traffic would be spread out and you can drive without someone tailgating you cause you want to drive the speed limit.
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Old 12-06-2010, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Hillsboro, OR
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What is your argument... that building a bridge = more traffic? If so, that might be the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Building a new bridge would allow the traffic going through the city to other destinations to be rerouted around. Not only this, but people from Indiana who want to go to the east end will have a more direct route than through downtown. Look at it this way, too: Louisville, with a metro population of 1.2 Million, roughly 200,000 of which reside on the Indiana side, has only 3 bridges that cross the Ohio River: I-65, US 31, and I-64. Compare this to Omaha, NE, with a metro area of 868,000, roughly 100,000 of which live on the Iowa side of the river, has 5 bridges that cross the Missouri River: I-680, I-480, I-80, US 275/SR 92, and SR 370. There are an additional 2 bridges nearby that serve Omaha exurban areas: US 30 in Blair and US 34 in Plattsmouth...for a total of 7 bridges. CLEARLY Louisville is severely underserved by the current amount of bridges in the area.

Looking back on the "good old days" is pointless because they don't exist anymore. People have to adapt their city for the times, or it will fall into disarray.

Regarding tolls...that's a different story. They are going to have an extremely difficult...if not impossible... time trying to convince FHWA to toll an EXISTING portion of interstate (65 across the Ohio). They risk losing federal funding by doing this, and FHWA has already claimed that others cannot do this. However, they would be allowed to toll the 265 bridge as it is a new portion of interstate. If they do this, they should be smart and install a toll collection system similar to the 407 in Ontario that takes a picture of every license plate that enters/exits the systems and sends a bill in the mail, thereby allowing no stops in the system
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Old 01-03-2011, 10:39 AM
 
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Louisville needs a new EAST END bridge/byapss, as we've never had one and downtown suffers greatly due to the fact that so much unnecessary traffic has to be routed through it.

What we don't need is a $3 BILLION bill for yet another downtown bridge and an expansion of Spaghetti Monstrosity. Building ultra expensive elevated interstate downtown is just ridiculous, the city needs bypasses and that will fix the congestion downtown.

PS. Visit 8664.org to learn more.
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Old 01-05-2011, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Hillsboro, OR
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Louisville needs a new EAST END bridge/byapss, as we've never had one and downtown suffers greatly due to the fact that so much unnecessary traffic has to be routed through it.

What we don't need is a $3 BILLION bill for yet another downtown bridge and an expansion of Spaghetti Monstrosity. Building ultra expensive elevated interstate downtown is just ridiculous, the city needs bypasses and that will fix the congestion downtown.

PS. Visit 8664.org to learn more.
The new downtown bridge should replace the current Kennedy bridge for I-65...and the old Kennedy would be torn down. Considering how heavily used the Kennedy is and how old it is, a new bridge to replace it is probably needed. It should be wider by one travel lane and a wider emergency lane on either side to make up for safety concerns.

I-64 will need to be rerouted via the new east end bridge and replace I-265 in Indiana. The current route of I-64 should be renumbered as I-464... it does not need to be 86'd which is a dumb solution... it would only increase traffic on 264 (which would not be good and result in terrible rush hour delays) and surface streets (which is dangerous). If you really want to free up waterfront property in downtown, 464 would have to be rerouted a different way, probably over Broadway in a double-decker like structure, then up Roy Wilkins to meet the current I-64.
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Old 01-08-2011, 10:22 AM
 
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As Psulions2007 and The Piper Down said, we NEED the I-264 bridge on the East side!!! The JFK is a mess at rush hour now. It will only get worse. Even a minor fender-bender on the bridge or approach snarls traffic very badly. My company delivers 18+ loads to the lousiville Metro every day, 6 of them into Southern IN. Not sure if my company will foot the toll bill, but it certainly would ease congestion into downtown.
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