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Old 09-28-2012, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Louisville KY Metro area
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Everybody in Louisville (with the possible exception of River Fields) has been saying for a long time to build the east end bridge and then see what happens at the very least. Actually the far west end bridge from the end of I-265 makes more sense than an additional downtown one! Mass transit will never work with the existing population density of Louisville, it isn't concentrated enough to make the cost per mile effective. The idea of a monorail is completely ridiculous because of the costs, even Disney isn't building more monorail track and they actually show a profit every year!
Monorail is less expensive to build than adding a full lane of highway per mile and 10 new parking strutures

Disney isn't growing it's footprint any more so it doesn't need more structure, but it can add more capacity simply by adding more cars or units.

The density of I-71/64/65 every morning, especially inside the Watterson does defeat your density argument.
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Old 10-01-2012, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Anchorage, KY
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The density of I-71/64/65 every morning, especially inside the Watterson does defeat your density argument.
I'm talking about residential density, not the traffic density! Those highways certainly have a lot of traffic for a concentrated on them but that traffic is forward onto those roads from a very wide area. In addition their destinations are also quite widespread compared to most areas with mass transit.
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Old 10-01-2012, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Louisville KY Metro area
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A monorail running from the airport (UPS)/Terminal to downtown via the Fairgrounds, Churchill Downs, & UL would totally remove the need for second downtown bridge. Then to extend it to S. Indiana (Lewis & Clark Pkwy) with a link to the casino, and back to the malls area of St. Matthews.
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Old 10-01-2012, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Anchorage, KY
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A monorail running from the airport (UPS)/Terminal to downtown via the Fairgrounds, Churchill Downs, & UL would totally remove the need for second downtown bridge. Then to extend it to S. Indiana (Lewis & Clark Pkwy) with a link to the casino, and back to the malls area of St. Matthews.
That route was discussed several years ago when they were talking about light rail. It makes absolutely no sense because it only goes to destinations, not to where people live. Yes, it would serve visitors coming to Louisville quite nicely but would be almost completely useless for residents!
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Old 10-01-2012, 09:56 PM
 
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A monorail running from the airport (UPS)/Terminal to downtown via the Fairgrounds, Churchill Downs, & UL would totally remove the need for second downtown bridge. Then to extend it to S. Indiana (Lewis & Clark Pkwy) with a link to the casino, and back to the malls area of St. Matthews.
That would be amazing. To the point that those routes "wouldn't go to people's residence" so it wouldn't help, I dont believe that. People could use the tarc to get to and from the monorail stations, which i'm sure the tarc people would be happy to tailor their routes to make that possible quite easy.Plus it would make it easier on the tarc routes to where the buses could have more specific,efficient routes.If we are going to throw money at anything it should be monorail...As far as the east end bridge, I dont go to Indiana so I dont care if it's built or not. I guess the idea of the bridge is to connect 2-65 in indiana with 2-65 in prospect? Who cares if hoosiers can't visit the summit without shooting up 71 to 2-65? I think the idea of either bridge is ridiculous and makes no sense to anyone working and living in Louisville.
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Old 10-02-2012, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Louisville KY Metro area
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That route was discussed several years ago when they were talking about light rail. It makes absolutely no sense because it only goes to destinations, not to where people live. Yes, it would serve visitors coming to Louisville quite nicely but would be almost completely useless for residents!
Wrong, it goes through residential areas that lay between destinations. Also as in large metros with light rail/subway, large park and ride lots provide staging.
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Old 10-02-2012, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Not Moving
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Louisville needs 2 bridge - 2 to make a complete loop of I-65. THEN see if another downtown bridge is still need. The East End bridge has been "shovel ready" project with 2 freeways just 6 miles apart for 30 years. The fact that a few rich land owners and far fringe leftwing groups (River Fields) could hold an entire region hostage and prevent a needed bridge from being built makes a farce of our democracy.
I totally agree with this. Thank you censudata.............this really spells it out and I can't understand WHY anyone.....anyone would not agree with this. I've never understood why there wasn't that loop completion..........should have been in place from the "get-go."
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Old 10-03-2012, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Lake Arlington Heights, IL
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Complete the east end bridge so traffic from I-64 and I-71 on the east end that wants to connect north on i-65 (and vice versa) can do so without using I-65. It also provides better through route for I-71 traffic that wants to continue on I-64 towards Evansville and St. Louis. Take I-64 between I-65 and I-264 and reduce it's footprint; detangle the spaghetti bowl and us the US31 bridge for local traffic that wants to connect to a boulevard that replaces I-64. The boulevard I envision would be like lower Wacker Dr in Chicago. A highway below ground separated from cross streets for good traffic flow with limited entrance and exit ramps. Trucks would be limited to local delivery only. This would open up the riverfront to foot and bike traffic, allow some of the ramps from I-65 to the former I-64 west to be torn down and expand park space.
Main problem I see with this is if the I-65 bridge needs to be replaced, then the money for my local replacement for I-64 downtown would probably have to be a surface street because of the $$
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Old 10-03-2012, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Charlotte/Mebane, NC and Suitland, MD
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From someone who lives in an area with an expansive subway system, there would be no way that Louisville would be able to support a DC-type subway system. The fares here are getting less affordable all the time, which are causing less people to ride. The Louisville metro area is not big enough to justify that much money going to a subway system.
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Old 10-25-2012, 11:48 AM
 
Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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There are a couple issues with mass transit in Louisville. First is gas prices - will 3X higher than 8 years ago - are really not high enough to force anyone but the very poor to abandon car transit. For example I commute from Lyndon to Jtown 5 days a week and drive the most common car in the USA (Toyota Camry). My 12 mile roundtrip commute costs a "whooping" $8 a week. Unless gas is $15 a gallon there is no reason for me to abandon car transit.

Second Louisville (and most American cities) would have to be completely rebuilt to commute by mass transit. That would cost a ton of money not just to rebuild infrastructure but to tear down and rebuild homes, shopping center, etc.
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