Moving to Louisville from Argentina next year (Valley Station, Okolona: apartments, student loan)

[hogsrus]

I keep reading about parts of louisville that aren't safe and others that are. Are there some kind of imaginary line or law that says that these thugs aren't allowed to cross?

[EricOldTime]

Originally Posted by censusdata

Re Crime... part of the problem was the street I lived on in Old Louisville (Hill St) which had a lot of foot traffic. Had I been .02 mile away and able to park on a quieter street I might have not had any problems. Car break ins are the main problem with urban neighborhoods, even high income ones.

I'm kind of in the same boat as you, trying to find an affordable house. The problem is it's always cheap for a reason lol. If the house and area were perfect it would be more than I want to pay. Part of it is that most of the houses you've asked about are in a certain area (Southern Pky) that is more hit or miss and close to not so great areas. Buying is different than renting, you have a financial stake in whether the area improves or declines. I wouldn't recommend dicey areas to anyone on this forum to buy in unless they specifically say they are urban homesteaders.

Another issue is home prices in the older areas east of I-65 have went through the roof, most have doubled or triple in value in the past decade. Germantown would have been a good option but the only affordable area now are mostly college students.

The best areas that are affordable (from west to east into IN) are: Valley Station, Auburndale, Brooks / Hillview, or in the cities of Shelbyville or LaGrange. Now and then a cheap house pops up in the East End. In Indiana eastern parts of Jeffersonville, northern parts of Clarksville or New Albany are good.

Ouch, I dunno if I can get my wife on board with this....that pretty muchy wipes out a HUGE swath of Jeff county!

[Saturius]

Originally Posted by hogsrus

I keep reading about parts of louisville that aren't safe and others that are. Are there some kind of imaginary line or law that says that these thugs aren't allowed to cross?

CrimeMapping.com - National Map

This is the new official Louisville crime map. Type in a random address in any area of Louisville and you get a realistic look of a neighborhood and the type of crime committed. This takes out the guess work for people who like to just look at the facts. I always use this, other crime "heat maps" and personal anecdotes of people who live in the neighborhood to assess where I would want to live. Crime happens everywhere. Obviously less in the East End, but not everyone can live there. There are plenty of safe places in IN and the Southern Parts of Louisville. If you monitor the frequency and type of crimes in specific areas you get clear idea of what you can and can put up with.

Also, the East End teds to have lower crime than any other parts of Louisville, whereas the South End, while safe, tends to be more scattered in its crime. What I mean by that is that there are large swaths or pockets of very safe areas that can be adjacent or near other small pockets of low to mid crime areas. That's just a reality of choosing to live in the South End though. But that would personally never deter me. You can get a great house for a great price in a great neighborhood in many parts of the South End. It's up to the individual to decide how large of a safety net radius they want. If you want a ginormous one, you'll have to pay big bucks for the East End. For those on modest budgets, the South End can be perfectly adequate. I can't speak to Indiana though. I don't know much about those areas.

[hogsrus]

Originally Posted by Saturius

CrimeMapping.com - National Map

This is the new official Louisville crime map. Type in a random address in any area of Louisville and you get a realistic look of a neighborhood and the type of crime committed. This takes out the guess work for people who like to just look at the facts. I always use this, other crime "heat maps" and personal anecdotes of people who live in the neighborhood to assess where I would want to live. Crime happens everywhere. Obviously less in the East End, but not everyone can live there. There are plenty of safe places in IN and the Southern Parts of Louisville. If you monitor the frequency and type of crimes in specific areas you get clear idea of what you can and can put up with.

Also, the East End teds to have lower crime than any other parts of Louisville, whereas the South End, while safe, tends to be more scattered in its crime. What I mean by that is that there are large swaths or pockets of very safe areas that can be adjacent or near other small pockets of low to mid crime areas. That's just a reality of choosing to live in the South End though. But that would personally never deter me. You can get a great house for a great price in a great neighborhood in many parts of the South End. It's up to the individual to decide how large of a safety net radius they want. If you want a ginormous one, you'll have to pay big bucks for the East End. For those on modest budgets, the South End can be perfectly adequate. I can't speak to Indiana though. I don't know much about those areas.

Wow...that's some good information...Thanks

[censusdata]

Originally Posted by hogsrus

I keep reading about parts of louisville that aren't safe and others that are. Are there some kind of imaginary line or law that says that these thugs aren't allowed to cross?

Quite frankly that's something I've wondered about to. You'd think the criminals would drive to the richest neighborhoods and rob people with the most goodies but they tend to only target people in low income areas or a crowded downtown area. It seems that a large number of the worst criminals are people who don't drive and commit crime on foot. That's one reason suburban residences get mad about expanding bus lines, there's a fear that crime will follow.

Lexington and every other city I've been to is like this too. The areas considered good or bad don't change much over time.

[hogsrus]

Originally Posted by censusdata

Quite frankly that's something I've wondered about to. You'd think the criminals would drive to the richest neighborhoods and rob people with the most goodies but they tend to only target people in low income areas or a crowded downtown area. It seems that a large number of the worst criminals are people who don't drive and commit crime on foot. That's one reason suburban residences get mad about expanding bus lines, there's a fear that crime will follow.

Lexington and every other city I've been to is like this too. The areas considered good or bad don't change much over time.

I understand...IF I were going to plunder and pillage I would make it worth my while, after all, stealing is stealing. I guess they figure it ain't stealing if it's from your neighbor.

[EricOldTime]

Originally Posted by censusdata

Quite frankly that's something I've wondered about to. You'd think the criminals would drive to the richest neighborhoods and rob people with the most goodies but they tend to only target people in low income areas or a crowded downtown area. It seems that a large number of the worst criminals are people who don't drive and commit crime on foot. That's one reason suburban residences get mad about expanding bus lines, there's a fear that crime will follow.

Lexington and every other city I've been to is like this too. The areas considered good or bad don't change much over time.

Here in Argentina its like a plague EVERY demographic, every neighborhood, everyone suffers the same. They don't care who, or where they target. Actually save for the old folks. Here they like to rob old folks because they know they stash lots of cash. Break in, wait until they come home, suprise them, tie them up, torture them and beat them and pistol whip them until they're faces are like hamburger THEN they steal everything. Average ages of these purpotrators? From about the age of 11 - 25.

They like to steal cars, all day long everywhere, broad daylight they don't care here LOL. Usually when they steal a car here they run over and kill a few people on the way trying to get away. Sometimes they'll steal one car, crash it and then promptly steal another one. This happens virtually everyday here in the city where we live. They broke into a house here about eight blocks from us one morning. A small family, the 70 year old woman had a heart attack and died instantly due to the sudden fear and shock of being suddenly and violently robbed. Her son they tied up and demanded to know where they had their savings stashed. When he refused, they grabbed his 11 year old daughter and shot her in the leg. So, he gave in, gave them the grandmothers life savings. They took the money and then on the way out, decided to shoot the father in the face, killing him instantly. They caught the crooks a few days later, the youngest of which was only 12 years old. They asked them why they robbed the family and one kid said he did it because he needed some money to buy a sister a birthday gift.

None of them are currently serving time thanks in part to argentinas corrupt judicial system. By the way, less than 1 hour before, they had attempted rob two other homes within a 3 block radius and also steal a car.

Now you know why we want to get out of here as soon as possible and get to Kentucky!

[EricOldTime]

Guys what about this area:

119 Seneca Trail in Iroqois

Its near the airport and not far from Iroqois park. Me and my wife out of all the areas east of I-65 and south like this area the best. Sidewalks, large Oak trees, quaint brick style cottages, older homes. To us the area "looks" nice, safe and seems to be well kept. Its near a little knob called "Kentwood Hill" that looks nice. What can you guys tell us? Looks can be deceiving? LOL

This suburban look and feel we really like, it has the look and feel that we like. Even so, we're open, we want to learn as much about every part of Louisville we can before we make our transition. I just know that their are some iffy areas so...whatever you guys can say about it is great.

[UKWildcat1981]

Come back to Kentucky man. Its going to be in the 50s this weekend in Jan, heat wave man.

[EricOldTime]

Originally Posted by UKWildcat1981

Come back to Kentucky man. Its going to be in the 50s this weekend in Jan, heat wave man.

Hahah I dunno.....not exactly a heat wave but I'll take 50 degrees over -5 any day!