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Old 09-16-2009, 03:50 PM
 
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I am researching the former Central Station on 7th and riverfront. It was used by the B&ORR among others prior to being abandoned in the 60's. Any pictures or web sources of pics would be appreciated.
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Old 09-16-2009, 06:26 PM
 
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Google 7th Street Station or 7th Street Depot, as it was called that as well as Central Station:

Heres one that came up

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Another view



1910, with train shed visible behind



1920.


1937 flood


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This was one unlucky building! Construction destroyed by the great tornado of 1890. Rebuilt 1891 to be severely damaged by fire in 1909. Now this view, the great flood of 1937. During World War II, the tower and 3rd floor were removed as an economy measure. Go figure! The Station closed in 1963 as rail travel declined. Actor's Theater used it for awhile until it moved to its present location on Main Street. In 1968, it was torn down to make room for the riverfront expressway (which, incidentally, now separates the city from the Ohio River, its traditional life-blood).
...however I question the 1968 date. I vaguely recall this building still standing in 1971, being used by Actors.

Don't know if there is an interior view anywhere.
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Old 09-17-2009, 12:13 AM
 
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I am researching the former Central Station on 7th and riverfront. It was used by the B&ORR among others prior to being abandoned in the 60's. Any pictures or web sources of pics would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Broken Sidewalk . Broken Sidewalk Those folks there would know. There was a recent article on that site about Louisville's massive electric elevated streetcar system. Looking at Louisville's historic photos, you can tell she was once a very major, dense city....
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Old 09-17-2009, 03:28 AM
 
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It wasn't an elevated streetcar system per se. Streetcar and interurban lines from Southern Indiana used the bridges..the Big Four bridge... to cross the river, and some of those approaches were elevated in order to reach the bridge level from the street. There was that elevated railroad connecter along the riverfront, which was used by mainline freight rail, too. That riverfront line probably had some relationship to Central Station
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Old 09-19-2009, 02:03 AM
 
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It wasn't an elevated streetcar system per se. Streetcar and interurban lines from Southern Indiana used the bridges..the Big Four bridge... to cross the river, and some of those approaches were elevated in order to reach the bridge level from the street. There was that elevated railroad connecter along the riverfront, which was used by mainline freight rail, too. That riverfront line probably had some relationship to Central Station
That is not what I read. Elevated streetcars with passengers extended up and down the river from 1st street through shippingport. They also extended well into southern indiana, with what appears to be at least a mile of tracks in Jeffersonville for one. There was also another line that ran near the baxter/lexington intersection, and in fact, an old abandoned graffiti filled elevated rail station still stands on the L&N tracks there that looks eerily similar to Chicago's older "El" stations, especilly ones on the red and brown lines before recent upgrades.

If you are interested in learning more, contact the folks at brokensidewalk.

Judging by old pictures and its transit history, Louisville fell a long way from its peak grandeur in the 1860's, and again from another peak around 1900, and perhaps up until 1920.
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Old 09-19-2009, 06:22 AM
 
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The old L&N station which you refer to was built in the heyday of railroading. That entire stretch of railway was refurbished and constructed in the 1930's, but I believe much of that area's original construction was due to the "local" that had specific rails from downtown Louisville out to LaGrange. I certainly may be wrong on this account, and if so, I'd love have the corrected version.

This is a very interesting historical thread.
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Old 09-19-2009, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Louisville KY Metro area
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An interesting article:

The Urbanophile: Louisville's Elevated Electric Rail System (http://theurbanophile.blogspot.com/2008/06/louisvilles-elevated-electric-rail.html - broken link)
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Old 09-20-2009, 02:40 PM
 
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An interesting article:

The Urbanophile: Louisville's Elevated Electric Rail System (http://theurbanophile.blogspot.com/2008/06/louisvilles-elevated-electric-rail.html - broken link)
There is plenty more articles about this from Broken Sidewalk . Broken Sidewalk as well. Recently, the idea of electric streetcars has resurfaced in Louisville, and it has become clear that the only way it will happen is with a private, not government, investment:

Broken Sidewalk . Developer Proposes Streetcar Line for Bardstown Road
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Old 09-20-2009, 04:04 PM
 
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An interesting article
The exchange at the end of the article between "Panamerican99" and :"R David Schooling" had some good info, and also shows that maybe people are confusing track elevations with "The EL" in NYC and Chicago.

I think that Baxter station was an L&N local passenger station on a grade elevation, as was stated in that exchange. This type of station existed in Cleveland and Buffalo among other places. And grade elevations were also used quite a bit. The difference is the Louisville elevation is on a concrete trestle. In other places grade elevations were on earthen fill, sometimes with concrete retaining walls. This isn't the same as a NYC or Chicago-style L, and as far as I know the L&N didn't electrify its local or suburban service.

But that's a digression from Central Station

As per the article in the Encyclopedia of Louisville the riverfront trestle was built in 1884 to connect railroads entering the city from the east with the Louisville & Elizabethtown (later the Illinois Central and todays L&P.) at 14th street. The first Central Station was also built in 1884. So one can infer a connection with the trestle and a station at this site

From the Louisville Title Company Atlas of Louisville (1913) one can see the track arrangement for the station and what are probably the riverfront tracks on the trestle.



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To really research this riverfront line to see if there were additional passenger stations, as well as the configuration of the tracks and train shed at 7th Street one would have to investigate older Sanborn maps. I don’t know if they are online for Louisville.
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Old 09-21-2009, 04:12 AM
 
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Here's some more on the connection with that riverfront trestle and transit across the river to Southern Indiana, in this case New Albany:

From an on-line history of the K&IT Railroad:

The K&I Bridge company ran a steam passenger service across the bridge known as the Daisy Line. It ran from First Street in Louisville along the Portland Canal and across the bridge terminating in New Albany. A small traction line extended it to Silver Hills. The passenger cars were painted yellow with brown trimming, resembling a black-eyed susan, hence the name Daisy Line. In 1893 this passenger line was electrified (one of the first in the United States) and sold to the Louisville and Northern Lighting Co.... About 1908 the Louisville Railway obtained the passenger service and incorporated it into their streetcar system. The route was changed from one along the Portland Canal to one originating at 3rd and Jefferson in Louisville, using the Portland-Shelby route to 31st and Portland, turning north on 31st, and then up onto the bridge at 31st and Montgomery Street.

So they were running local passenger service over that riverfront trestle to 1st Street between, say, 1885 to 1908. In 1893 the line converted to electric operation.

After 1908 the service was re-routed off the trestle and on to the Louisville streetcar tracks.
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