View Poll Results: Louisville, KY.... southern or midwestern?
Southern
31 47.69%
MidWestern
34 52.31%
05-24-2007, 11:56 AM
Location: Metro Milwaukee, WI
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Agreed. The only problem i've always had though is that if Louisville and Lexington have to be considered Southern, what does that make Huntington, WV and Charleston,WV? I've always thought both of these cities to be in somewhat the same category as Louisville and Lexington, as being on that border region between the North and South. I'd never include any of these cities in the Midwest but would say they are on that "border" and should be regarded as being the northernmost Southern cities if "border" does not suffice with anyone.
Well, I actually always consider West Virginia part of the inner east coast region (along with Virginia, Pennsylvania, etc.)...maybe Pennsylvania is what I consider WV most closely aligned with, and I wouldn't consider Pennsylvania (or WV) as either Midwestern or southern.
05-24-2007, 12:03 PM
Location: St. Louis, MO
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Well, I actually always consider West Virginia part of the inner east coast region (along with Virginia, Pennsylvania, etc.)...maybe Pennsylvania is what I consider WV most closely aligned with, and I wouldn't consider Pennsylvania (or WV) as either Midwestern or southern.
I'd call Pennsylvania Northeastern. West Virginia is I guess kind of a chameleon type of state. It has commonalities with Pennsylvania, Maryland, D.C., Virginia, Kentucky, and Ohio. I've always thought of Virginia as being more of a Southern state myself.
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05-25-2007, 12:46 AM
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rgb123
Kentucky IS in the south, no question.
I agree. Upper South or Deep South = South....I thought that didn't need to be explained
05-25-2007, 12:50 AM
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I am suprised that Cracker Barrel has a different menu by region. I thought they prided themselves on uniformity (same decor in every one, etc) and the whole point is the country, Southern, down home cooking. I'm stunned.
Same here too. Cracker Barrel by not promoting Southern-style menus loses its entire identity. Makes no sense to me.
05-25-2007, 07:34 AM
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Cracker Barrels are more common than you take them to be and the restaurants are making their way north. Illinois, Indiana, and Ohio are full of them, as is Missouri. is this some kind of an attempt to convince me i'm southern, cause it's not working. I know those states very well given I visit them on multiple occasions per year. If they don't have sweet tea in Minnesota i'd be surprised because they sure as hell do have it in the lower Midwest states' Cracker Barrels (Missouri, Illinois, Indiana, Ohio). Indiana has the most sweet tea of any state in the Midwest, far more than Missouri. Indiana is practically half-dominated by sweet tea. Missouri not even a quarter.
No, ajf, I wouldn't try to convince you that you are Southern.
I know, Cracker Barrels are ubiquitous in the north and south these days, but in the 80s, the only ones I ever encountered on my many trips between the Midwest and FL were in the South. The first one I'd hit when I took I 24 was in Paducah, KY. As I said, I'd enjoy the VA ham and grits there, but the CBs I've been to in MN and WI don't have these items on their menues. Maybe the Southern ones don't anymore either, haven't been to one for ahile. Whether they have sweet tea at the one here in the TC, I don't know.
05-25-2007, 09:10 AM
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No, ajf, I wouldn't try to convince you that you are Southern.
I know, Cracker Barrels are ubiquitous in the north and south these days, but in the 80s, the only ones I ever encountered on my many trips between the Midwest and FL were in the South. The first one I'd hit when I took I 24 was in Paducah, KY. As I said, I'd enjoy the VA ham and grits there, but the CBs I've been to in MN and WI don't have these items on their menues. Maybe the Southern ones don't anymore either, haven't been to one for ahile. Whether they have sweet tea at the one here in the TC, I don't know.
Really? Well I can't speak for the '80s given I was born in '86, but I believe you. Makes me wonder the same thing about Waffle Houses, BenAround? Were they only in the South in the '80s too? I guess it'd sort of surprise me that Minnesota would not have the true Cracker Barrel stuff the other restaurant chains would given the whole idea of a restaurant chain in the first place is to establish uniformity. Cracker Barrel is a true Southern restaurant and their whole purpose seems to be to offer Southern cooking no matter what part of the country their located in. I'm not questioning whether the TC one was lacking the stuff you said it did. Just makes me wonder why it was.
05-25-2007, 09:11 AM
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No, ajf, I wouldn't try to convince you that you are Southern.
I know, Cracker Barrels are ubiquitous in the north and south these days, but in the 80s, the only ones I ever encountered on my many trips between the Midwest and FL were in the South. The first one I'd hit when I took I 24 was in Paducah, KY. As I said, I'd enjoy the VA ham and grits there, but the CBs I've been to in MN and WI don't have these items on their menues. Maybe the Southern ones don't anymore either, haven't been to one for ahile. Whether they have sweet tea at the one here in the TC, I don't know.
The Southern ones do
hehe. Sweet tea and everything. So do the lower Midwest ones. But they are anomalies here.
05-25-2007, 01:12 PM
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okay guys, I used to work at the cracker barrel (jealous aren't you) I worked at the first one to come to northern illinois when I was 19 (I'm only 30 so there you go). It was the first time I ever had okra and I did not know what turnip greens were, and they had to eplain to me that we had two different hams....
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House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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I know, Cracker Barrels are ubiquitous in the north and south these days, but in the 80s, the only ones I ever encountered on my many trips between the Midwest and FL were in the South. The first one I'd hit when I took I 24 was in Paducah, KY. As I said, I'd enjoy the VA ham and grits there, but the CBs I've been to in MN and WI don't have these items on their menues. Maybe the Southern ones don't anymore either, haven't been to one for ahile. Whether they have sweet tea at the one here in the TC, I don't know.
