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Old 07-02-2012, 02:07 PM
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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I wouldn't do anything to improve downtown. Revitalizing downtowns is, in most cities just pouring money down the sewer. Lots of towns have tried and failed. I don't think that the city should be spending taxpayers money to make a particular place in town better, which is basicallly only beneficial, potentially, to the property owners in that part of town. Why there and not some of the other run down areas of town. If I could push for anything as mayor, I would try to improve the park system. Put in some things that are can make life living in Lubbock better and more enjoyable for the average citizen, no matter if he or she owns property or not, rich poor white black brown whatever. Maybe designate some park land to start a zoo, and try to get some business interests to donate funds. Maybe get citizens along with some business interests to have a city wide fund raiser.
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Old 07-02-2012, 02:49 PM
Location: Denver
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You weren't really around to see what the North Overton neighborhood was like beforehand, were you? In Lubbock, revitalization of core areas has already proven very successful. It's a public-private partnership, so it's not like unreasonable amounts of taxpayer money are going toward this. It's also an investment by the city because the increased value and business in downtown expands their tax base. It's simply a government entity, the only establishment with enough influence, kickstarting a project for which there is clear demand.

Lubbock's parks are already numerous, well-maintained, and continually being updated (I'm in town currently, and I've already seen Miller and Wagner with projects going on, and almost all have had installation of new equipment in the past three years or so), so I'm not really sure what exactly you're proposing other than a zoo, which if you want to talk about money down the drain, look no further. People have tried before, and most are happy to just visit ones in the larger Texas cities, so there's no demand for one here. Not even Austin has a zoo.

The point of a downtown isn't for tourism reasons either. If you can't see the point of having a lively, walkable, multi-use area in the most historic part of town, then I'm not really sure you'd ever get it. You're not from here, and you don't much care for living here, so civic pride clearly has no bearing, neither does the clear trend currently happening in urban development.
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Old 07-02-2012, 08:10 PM
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A zoo is a wonderful idea, and I never have understood why Lubbock doesn't have one. I, admittedly, was a doubter when the North Overton project started. It turned out remarkably well and was not primarily funded by taxpayers. My hats off to the McDougals for their vision and dedication to improving Lubbock. I hope I'm still around to see the downtown project come to fruition.
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Old 07-02-2012, 11:03 PM
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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With the recent moves by the city: LPL buying out the competition and then calling for large rate increases, and the constant drumbeat for downtown revitilization, I'm beginning to get the idea that the taxpayers are going to get their pockets picked.
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Old 07-03-2012, 08:52 PM
Location: Texas
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A zoo is a losing proposition. Nothing but a big money pit. If the desire is there to fund a money pit, another park would be a better idea.

I was not sold on the Overton project, but I was wrong. It is a nice improvement over what it used to be. Had to work there delivering after dark for a couple of years in it's original state, and that was a VERY bad place to be after dark. Much nicer now, IMO.

Not sold on the downtown revitalization either, but might turn out to be wrong there too. I have little business in Amarillo or Lubbock downtown areas, but do have to admit that Amarillo has a nicer downtown than Lubbock.
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