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Old 03-23-2013, 07:59 PM
 
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I will be joining as PGY1resident at TTUHSC from July. I was looking for safe apt which are near to hospital.

I have few questions.

How is " the edge" apartment across the hospital do you suggest something else.

Is the area near the hospital campus safe.
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Old 03-23-2013, 11:01 PM
 
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the edge apartments are about 4 years old they were designed and built specifically for your demographic and the demographic of graduate students.....the other apartments close to there like Raiders Pass are geared to undergrads with the 4 people per unit setup and if one moves out/fails out the other three are not responsible for the rent, but management can move someone else in as well......The Edge is not set up that way if I recall and specifically was built for and marketed to post graduates.....while again most of the complexes right close to there are for the drink until vomit crowd

I would classify those apartments as safe.....Lubbock like many college towns (pretty much all college towns) does that the issue of car breakins in the areas with large numbers of college students simply because of a ready target "market" college kids often have nicer stereos, and college kids often have CDs, electronics, and other expensive items that they are less than responsible with/careless with that are left in cars for easy pickings and sadly IMO (and I am 99% sure I am right on this and the cops really do not catch on to this) many college students today are themselves thieving pieces of crap and opportunist so there is some % of those breakins to cars that happen from residents and friends of residents in that very complex.....as a complex geared to post graduates I would say The Edge would not have as many actual residents doing the thefts, but they will still attract some of them

the Texas Tech campus itself and the hospital complex are very safe IMO.....regular police patrols, security button/panic boxes all scattered about and really not a lot right around there other than the hospital

the area/neighborhood behind The Edge (that starts at second street on the map) I would not classify as unsafe, but it is not where I would go walking a dog or the like after dark.....I actually lived in a complex called Heritage that is a few blocks east of The Edge on 4th street and I had a few crappy neighbors (a single mom with two daughters and an Ex that used to get drunk and come around and act like a fool and the neighbors right below them that was a college couple (I believe) that the BF beat on the girl a few times and I also walked out one morning to a guy in his 20s with his pants around his ankles staring at two Indian girls (tech support not casino) and he was exciting himself.....lucky for him I do not carry or he would have been staring down the barrel of a gun)....I called the cops and described him, the girls were acting like they did not see him, and the apartment complex tried to pretend like I had not seen anything......but I am 100% positive I know exactly what I saw

the only actual issue I had living there was when I got some groceries one night and forgot to lock the passenger side door and someone clearly going around and checking car doors got in and stole some change and a small pocket knife and the drink console thing (with the change) from my truck....I am 99.9% positive if the door had been locked nothing would have happened so clearly again opportunist

I also know there was a resident from that neighborhood back behind there that used to come around and vandalize/steal from the vending and laundry machines and try to break into them for the change and I could identify him still today, but even bumping into him and seeing him around he was not actually a threat to me it ever seemed he was just a small time loser....now maybe if I presented more of an opportunity or an easier target for him who knows......but overall in several years living there the car theft of change because of an open door was the only thing that happened to me and I did not know of any violent acts (other then the loser couple with the abusive BF) that went on......and sadly that crap could happen anywhere and also Heritage markets to EVERYONE while again The Edge markets specifically to post graduates so there goes single moms, losers, and abusive undergrad couples most likely from the mix....and it is my opinion that the particular neighborhood behind all of that gets safer to the southwest and gets less desirable to the northeast.....so The Edge is on the edge of the best part of that neighborhood....I also sold that same truck eventually to a guy that had worked at Tech for 20+ years that lived right there and he was a stand up guy and definitely not a crook

other than that right in that general area you are either looking at complexes that are 100% geared to the drink until vomit crowd or heritage and heritage is managed by crap and is generally crap (although not unsafe IMO) so unless your budget is stretched I would say The Edge would be worth looking into.....there is also another very small "condo" complex that is right to the east of Detroit and 3rd Place (if you are driving east down third place and go across Detroit you will be smashing into it)(behind nothing but smokes on the map) and it is pretty nice, but it was $800 a month way back so I can't imagine what it is now, but almost surely as much or more than The Edge and less convenient to the hospital

other than The Edge and those condos just east of there that is all I would really recommend for a med student/resident unless you still like to walk out on the weekends to 3+ parties going on around you and there is not much else to choose from.....the Overton area east of the Texas Tech main campus (east of university north of Broadway) is geared to students now and some complexes are probably more graduate focused (they are all pretty much new), but that is much less convenient to the hospital and the cost will probably be very similar to The Edge since they were all built about the same time....they 100% WILL have the car breakin issues.....from The Edge west down 4th once you get to Toledo and then on to the loop those complexes are mostly students, less rowdy than Raiders Pass and the like, safe, but they are older and from what I understand the walls in many of them are wafer thin so you can catch up on your neighbors McHappenings relatively easily......close to United Grocery though and close to walmart for shopping and 4th street does have a bus for campus.......further west of the loop again those complexes are safe, mostly students, but while not as rowdy and Raiders Pass they will be party central most weekends

non-apartment options are a "back house" (or the front house) in Tech Terrace which is south of the Tech main campus (south of 19th and west of university) and very safe and filled with students, professors, and regular residents and the prices are a bit high, but that keeps most of the crap out...the neighborhoods south of 4th street and west of the hospital are nice and safe, but I have never known of anyone renting in those areas they are mostly just residents of Lubbock
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Old 03-24-2013, 01:06 PM
 
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Thanks for the reply. I really appreciate it. As you know, I would have night calls and odd shifts, I want to live in safe area. I cannot live far away from campus as I will be on call.

What about "renaissance apartments" - 5202 Auburn St, Lakeshore-Maxey Apt on 4345 28th Street.
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Old 03-24-2013, 03:15 PM
 
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Thanks for the reply. I really appreciate it. As you know, I would have night calls and odd shifts, I want to live in safe area. I cannot live far away from campus as I will be on call.

What about "renaissance apartments" - 5202 Auburn St, Lakeshore-Maxey Apt on 4345 28th Street.
I am not as personally familiar with those three options.....the first one Renaissance I would THINK would be more expensive than The Edge for the website and the amenities and less convenient

I would think they would really be about equally as safe from a personal safety standpoint with the only difference being The Edge is in a very busy location near the hospital which is patrolled regularly while Renaissance is pretty isolated and I doubt patrolled at all

as far as any car breakin issues....I can say this for a fact if you look just to the northwest of Ren at Colgate @ North Chicago you will see a complex of duplexes and then all the way to north of Erskine those exact same layouts of duplexes......those are Lynnwood Townhomes and they are 100% drunk until you vomit student housing.....the are VERY nice for typical student housing, the management takes VERY GOOD care of the properties, and as far as personal safety I have never known anyone to have an issue living there and they are very heavily patrolled especially on the weekends when Lubbock Police do what they do 100% the best which is chase 18-20yos drinking beer because that is a big revenue stream for them and apparently a big ego boost as well....BUT what Lynnwood townhomes do suffer from badly and probably as bad as anywhere in Lubbock is car breakins.....and I know for a fact that a portion of that is from the residents themselves because some college kid friends of mine (I am well past college years) that lived in those caught their neighbors in the attached unit in their garage a couple of times when they had it opened and in general probably the highest number of car breakin reports comes from there or North Overton.....strangely the cops never seem to catch them, but the beer drinkers they will literally hide in the bushes to catch

I have another friend that is well past college age (in his 40s) and married that lives a bit further east on Erskine and he is not happy with the direction of his neighborhood (though far from unsafe feeling just people bringing down the property values though not as much of a car breakin issue)......so there is a good chance those that break into cars around Lynnwood have discovered the Ren enclave and figured out that even higher end targets are there for the taking.....but personal safety is probably NOT an issue there.....if it was me and the prices were even close to the same I would probably look at both and choose The Edge simply because of location....IMO if it was really a personal safety concern I might actually give the edge to The Edge.....simply because it is in an area that is SO busy.....if someone was to try and accost you I am about 99% sure you would have a much better chance of running into someone that is a good person, getting to an open store, or bumping into a passing upstanding motorist or even a cop VS at Ren where you are pretty much there on an island and if one of your neighbors is not out and about or does not hear you and act to aid you then you are pretty much there on an island....I am not sure where you are coming from, but Lubbock overall is a VERY small place in terms of getting around you can get pretty much anywhere from anywhere in about 15 minutes so IF someone is set on doing harm to someone they pretty much have the entire metro area to choose from so IF they want to go to a more secluded place to do something well there are plenty of those.....if the have the urge to walk around the block and try something.....well they have that option as well so again between those two complexes from a pure personal safety stand point it is really what you are personally comfortable with are you a screamer and runner and can get all the lights of all the neighbors coming on in a second.....are you a run to the nearest street person and jump at cars...I would really believe that The Edge probably has more people up later just for the exact same reasons you will be up later VS Ren....I suppose the isolation of Ren you would at least have an idea if someone was following you VS The Edge.....but really for me I would say both are equally safe...I would imagine there might actually be more car breakins it Ren because of next to Lynnwood (which again is a nice well maintained actively managed complex that just happens to be accessible and opportunistic for those wanting to make a car breakin and a great place to be near if you want to get hammered on the weekend unless you are 18-20 )

as for the second complex on Auburn I would probably skip that one.....to be honest I knew someone that lived in that trailer park next door and she was a single female with two kids (both daughters I believe) and she was very happy there and never had an issue so I would say that trailer park is NOT an issue at all and is pretty safe.....but the overall location is just not convenient VS The Edge or really even Ren and really that whole area around there while safe overall I believe has very little in the way of people up and awake at odd hours or anyone out and about to offer "aid" in case of any emergency and it is a weird little area that is "isolated" while also very accessible from the loop.....so again I would deem it a safe area overall, but again since personal safety seems to be a primary concern in your line of questioning and as I stated Lubbock is EASY to get around.....IF and again IF someone just decided that was "the place" to do something well it offers mostly early to bed types, and easy freeway access to get in and out of....of course so do 1,000 other places in and around Lubbock.....but for me anyway as a larger sized male when I think of personal safety I think of more people activity around in general because the chances are most of them will be good people (unless you are just in a crappy area which I am often not in a crappy area) and so the chances are greater someone intent on doing something will pick someone else or I can have someone there to help me defend myself...if you are the type that watches your rearview 100 times on the way home, circles the block 20 times to look for people creeping, and generally thinks you WILL be the target in a group because of stature or gender or both and then perhaps a place where you can drive around the parking lot 10 times and know no one followed you because it is off the beaten path and then make a dash for the door is better.....mind you I am not poking fun at either method.....different people view and treat their safety issues different ways

as for Maxey Park.....very safe area overall probably IMO second to Tech Terrace as far as where a more mature student might look to live (and probably less chance of having younger college kids for neighbors)....that is an older complex....the park across the street is very nice and very popular and most likely a good mix of older and younger students and probably some nurses from Covenant Hospital (always a good thing from a males perspective )

so if budget was an issue, you wanted to be off of a little less busy street (Quaker is a major street, but not as major as 4th street) and if you preferred a park and did not mind a quick drive to UMC that complex is probably a very good safe choice....I know the area overall is safe and easily as safe as any of the others you have listed for me it would come down to the condition of the complex overall (I don't like hearing my neighbors McHappenings) and then price VS perceived value for that price...Ren and The Edge will be at the very higher end of the market for Lubbock....I am not sure of the price at Maexy Park, but for me I would say it should be lower by $150-$200 a month unless they are getting a premium from nurses and newer Drs and others coming into Covenant......safety will be as good or better than Ren and The Edge and car breakins probably more of a random occurrence VS a target market at Lynnwood (right by Ren) and the other more college oriented complexes (along 4th and in North Overton)

I would say none of those are terrible choices and since you have expressed an premium on personal safety while moving around at odd hours I tried to break it all down as best I could and then it will just depend on the type of environment you view as best from how you watch out for your safety (which everyone should do of course)
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Old 03-25-2013, 03:53 PM
 
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You have been a great help for me. I needed some information before I decide where should I stay.
what about apartments around 50th Street. like Fountains (5001 Chicago Ave), Windsor Creek Apt (5301 Chicago Ave), Dominion (5501 50th St,), Riverstone Park (5202 Bangor Avenue) and Parkridge Place (5301 51st Street).

What is the safest apt ?
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Old 03-25-2013, 06:11 PM
 
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You have been a great help for me. I needed some information before I decide where should I stay.
what about apartments around 50th Street. like Fountains (5001 Chicago Ave), Windsor Creek Apt (5301 Chicago Ave), Dominion (5501 50th St,), Riverstone Park (5202 Bangor Avenue) and Parkridge Place (5301 51st Street).

What is the safest apt ?
I am not as personally familiar with that area as far as the apartments....I will say in my opinion it should be as safe as anywhere in Lubbock from a personal safety aspect and it would be my opinion the car breakins would be lower than some of the other places closer to campus or closer to Lynnwood

from looking at them on google it looks as though some are older and some are newer, but i would imagine the residents would be pretty similar overall as far as demographics and safety.....I do not recall any issues in that area....I would probably avoid the older complexes around there because having seen them I would say they probably have wafer thin walls and you will be regularly updated with your neighbors goings on even if they are good neighbors the newer complexes around there look pretty good

there is one neighborhood around 50th south of it that I am pretty sure has a very large % of cops living in it....cops in Lubbock take their cars home and I used to have a job where I was mobile a lot and that one neighborhood always had a ton of cop cars parked around it and I have heard other people comment on it as well, but I can't remember where......it is south of 50th and west of Indiana and east of Slide.....but I can't remember which one

in Lubbock anything east of Q pretty much sucks and east of I27 really sucks (there are pockets of nice in some of those spots, but why put up with that.....south of 50th and east of University is an avoid all the way to I27 to the east and the loop to the south

south of 34th, east of slide, north of 50th all the way to Indiana on the east is hit and miss....not really an unsafe area per say, but there are pockets of houses in there that look like mobile home quality or worse only they are not mobile homes....they are just really poorly built and there are also some pockets of some pretty decent houses around there.....real hit and miss and not a lot of apartments anyway so probably not for you in general

down around 66th and Bangor might be an option in Lubbock south of the loop on slide is the nicer areas, but I do not know enough about those complexes along 66th and Bangor to say yes or no for sure and I would not put that area as any more desirable than the ones you just listed above

here is a bit of an easy hint for Lubbock apartments especially if you look on the google streetview look at the cars......people in Lubbock tend to drive newer cars even at lower income levels because if you have to go anywhere outside of Lubbock you are going to be making a drive.....so if you are seeing cars older than 10 years old or cars all beat to hell and junkie looking on streetview that is a definite 100% not to be considered

I have lived in Houston, Austin, Dallas, Denton, and San Antonio amongst other places and plenty of places in those cities you see newer very nice cars, but even in those areas you can see total crap.....moving to Lubbock I had an older truck at first and it was one of the older cars I saw around in general pretty much everywhere except places that totally and completely sucked

Tech students usually have newer cars for a number of reasons as well mainly being the need to get back home to dallas or Houston even or to regularly go home to one of the hundreds of small towns around the area......you break down in BFE and even with a cell phone and service you are in for a LONG wait.....so check out the views on streetview with that in mind as well
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Old 03-26-2013, 09:32 PM
 
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Also an incoming resident here:
Any input on St. Francis Village, Springfield, Wyndham, and Sundowner?

And how tight is the housing market? If I'm coming down mid June, should I hould I try to sign something in the next month, or can I just stay in a hotel for a few days when I get there, and browse apartments then?

Also, how pedestrian and bike friendly is Lubbock? Am I likely to get mowed down or have heat stroke if I use alternate transit to get to the medical center?
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Old 03-27-2013, 03:15 PM
 
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Also an incoming resident here:
Any input on St. Francis Village, Springfield, Wyndham, and Sundowner?

And how tight is the housing market? If I'm coming down mid June, should I hould I try to sign something in the next month, or can I just stay in a hotel for a few days when I get there, and browse apartments then?

Also, how pedestrian and bike friendly is Lubbock? Am I likely to get mowed down or have heat stroke if I use alternate transit to get to the medical center?
I will say right off I am not personally familiar with those exact complexes, but I know the areas

St. Francis is an older complex, but looks to be better built than some of the older complexes the area right near them is other older complexes, but as you go west just a few blocks you quickly get into one of the nicer older neighborhoods in Lubbock and that continues on for a while and to the east is an old folks home so if you can't handle yourself against that "onslaught" there is little hope for you haha

Springfield is way out in BFE.....now BFE in Lubbock is still a quick 15 minute drive to anywhere else even the furthest place, but I would give you about 20 minutes surviving riding a bike to anywhere from out there.....if you did not pass out from the heat you would get run over first.....but in a safe part of town although a part of town that is still lacking some amenities like a close by grocery store or many "fast" places to eat....or really any type of places to eat (the growth in Lubbock is to the west and southwest and somewhat to the south as well)....the Wyndham is similar to what I said about the area around 66th to the person above....it is right in that general area....IMO a very safe area, should be more "quiet" vs other areas closer to the university, but you can probably find the same somewhere closer to the university for a similar price....Sundowner is in a pretty nice area as well....not high end, but nice and safe and quiet.....should suffer less from car breakins because it is in the middle of a mostly single family neighborhood that is nice and safe for the most part (as safe as anywhere else in Lubbock)

as for needing to get a lease....it has been many years since I had to go through that....when I moved to Lubbock on short notice everyone told me 15 days was the soonest they could go into a recently vacated apartment, remove all the working light bulbs, flush the toilet, wash the hair down the shower drain and call the place "ready".....in fact Heritage apartments on 4th street screwed me because they knew they had me under the gun and also screwed the person I was taking over a lease from because that was the place I could get into the soonest....so of course I tore that apartment to hell.....the market is still pretty tight in Lubbock, but the summer should have some slack because of students leaving....one other thing I have noticed about Lubbock that still holds true today.....students move around a lot DURING the semester so there is a number of available units when summer comes, but not nearly like other places I have lived that were college towns (and that has been many).....so apartments are always coming open and also there is not the HUGE summertime vacancy of other places....I have a few ideas on why, but just ideas....my advice would be to call the various complexes and ask about when and what vacancy/availability they expect to have

now to you specifically and the alternate transportation question.....I would say 100% that all 4 places you ask about would NOT serve you well with needing/wanting to get around on public/alternate means of transport

the Lubbock buses run on extremely convoluted routes that make about ZERO sense and seem to only make an effort to get around the university and other major employers in passing.....there are a few routes that are student/university focused, but not many and the rest just seem to wander aimlessly going all kinds of strange places and or trying to get to the mall....hey everyone goes to the mall at some point right, but it is like the mall in Lubbock is a transportation hub

Springfield you will be a ways away from any grocery stores.....St. Francis you will be actually near a new 24X7 United Market Street and that is a treat for anyone!...easy biking or even walking distance.....Wyndham you will be in EASY walking or biking distance to a walmart and several other big box retailers and even a few fast places to eat and a Cstore or 2 so easy shopping there....Sundowner will be near some retailers and places to eat and the mall and you could probably bike to that same walmart and live to get there and back

the issue you will have at any of those is getting to the medical center especially on any off hour when a bus does run....to be very clear Lubbock is not bike unfriendly and most streets especially the major ones have usable sidewalks (though not great for a bike) the issue is that Lubbock is just VERY car centric

streets in Lubbock are either neighborhood streets for the most part or they are 4 or even 6 lane WIDE streets with FAST speed limits like 45 or 50 and people are HAULING on them.....which for someone like me that grew up in Houston is a dream come true .....but for someone on a bike that thinks they are going to "share a lane"..........again not that people desire to run you over.....it is just that they will be MOVING and maybe in a big truck or a bigger truck....I don't hear of a lot of bikers getting things thrown at them or yelled at or the like....but then there are really not a lot of bike riders on the main streets because it is just too much traffic getting down the road at fast or faster and even taking some of the main neighborhood streets with little or no traffic will mean a lot of effort and lots of stop signs (to keep people from cutting through the neighborhoods which you don't have to do in Lubbock anyway because the main streets move and move)

here is how to look at it....everything in Lubbock is on a grid for the most part and in sections a section is one mile by one mile square (640 acres) so neighborhoods are in a section usually.....all the 4 streets around the various sections like Slide, Quaker, Indiana, University 4th, 19th, 34th, 50th and the like are streets that MOVE.....all the streets in the section are easy for biking or walking and the like so if you look at the map you will easily notice the sections laid out and then you can see what streets no one that wants to live a long healthy life would regularly ride a bike down and then you can see if other routes can still get you to where you want to go while only crossing those major streets not riding down them.....IMO it is harder than it might look

for you I would say living somewhere along 4th (like in The Edge) might be better because you have a bus that goes up and down 4th and to United at 4th and Slide and further to the edge of Walmart on 4th and you can even ride over to campus and then head east to entertainment on University and Broadway and to the student focused eating and shopping areas around there while riding or walking almost exclusively on university property where is is very safe as far as walking or biking

again Lubbock does not hate bike riders, but the main streets are just flat not set up for them especially with the high speed limits and the fact that people regularly exceed them
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