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While that statement about density is true, there are lots of areas where there is open space and not many people around. It doesn't mean the entire state is jam-packed. It's only just outside NYC and Philly. NYC is the main culprit.
Shore areas are too hot, too crowded, no good places to live on the ocean (all too crowded and overdeveloped). And the vistas along the shore are mostly flat, bleak, and monotonous.
And I'm not even talking about crime and taxes or the price of ocean front property with ugly houses shoulder to shoulder and traffic jams year round or pollution.
As for the interior of NJ, no ocean. No interest in being landbound and hot.
Gun laws are too restrictive. And what they have to go through to convince the voters to allow hunters to shoot black bears.
Before you knock them, have you seen them? I mean actually seen them with your own eyes? If not, then you cannot have a valid opinion of them, just stereotypes and guesses.
Lived in Maine for 20 years, been to the ocean thousands of times, I'll take Lake Michigan ANY day of the week over the ocean.
I lived in MI for about 4-5 years and I can say that Lake Michigan did look like the ocean to me in many ways. However, that salty air smell was missing.
What this discussion illustrates is the simple fact the lists like "the most livable state" are plain old stupid. What makes one state livable for me would make it unlivable for someone else.
Before you knock them, have you seen them? I mean actually seen them with your own eyes? If not, then you cannot have a valid opinion of them, just stereotypes and guesses.
Lived in Maine for 20 years, been to the ocean thousands of times, I'll take Lake Michigan ANY day of the week over the ocean.
Some people look at the ocean, and all they see is water.
There is an epic majesty, mystery to the ocean, and the life it contains, all it contains.
Byron expresses it better than any words I have:
There is a pleasure in the pathless woods,
There is a rapture on the lonely shore,
There is society where none intrudes,
By the deep sea, and music in its roar:
I love not man the less, but nature more,
From these our interviews, in which I steal
From all I may be, or have been before,
To mingle with the universe, and feel
What I can ne'er express, yet cannot all conceal.-
Roll on, thou deep and dark blue ocean-roll!
Ten thousand fleets sweep over thee in vain;
Man marks the earth with ruin-his control
Stops with the shore;-upon the watery plain
The wrecks are all thy deed, nor doth remain
A shadow of man's ravage, save his own,
When for a moment, like a drop of rain,
He sinks into thy depths with bubbling groan,
Without a grave, unknell'd, uncoffin'd, and unknown.
His steps are not upon thy paths-thy fields
Are not a spoil for him-thou dost arise
And shake him from thee; the vile strength he wields
For earth's destruction thou dost all despise,
Spurning him from thy bosom to the skies,
And send'st him, shivering in thy playful spray,
And howling, to his gods, where haply lies
His petty hope in some near port or bay,
And dashest him again to earth: there let him lay.
The armaments which thunderstrike the walls
Of rock-built cities, bidding nations quake,
And monarchs tremble in their capitals,
The oak leviathans, whose huge ribs make
Their clay creator the vain title take
Of lord of thee, and arbiter of war;
These are thy toys, and, as the snowy flake,
They melt into thy yeast of waves, which mar
Alike the armada's pride, or spoils of Trafalgar.
Thy shores are empires, changed in all save thee-
Assyria, Greece, Rome, Carthage, what are they?
Thy waters washed them power while they were free,
And many a tyrant since: their shores obey
The stranger, slave or savage; their decay
Has dried up realms to deserts:-not so thou,
Unchangeable, save to thy wild waves' play-
Time writes no wrinkle on thine azure brow-
Such as creation's dawn beheld, thou rollest now.
Thou glorious mirror, where the Almighty's form
Glasses itself in tempests; in all time
Calm or convulsed-in breeze, or gale, or storm,
Icing the pole, or in the torrid clime
Dark-heaving; boundless, endless and sublime-
The image of eternity-the throne
Of the invisible; even from out thy slime
The monsters of the deep are made; each zone
Obeys thee; thou goest forth, dread, fathomless, alone.
And I have loved thee, ocean! And my joy
Of youthful sports was on thy breast to be
Borne, like thy bubbles, onward: from a boy
I wanton'd with thy breakers-they to me
Were a delight; and if the freshening sea
Made them a terror-'twas a pleasing fear,
For I was as it were a child of thee,
And trusted to thy billows far and near,
And laid my hand upon thy mane - as I do here.
I lived in MI for about 4-5 years and I can say that Lake Michigan did look like the ocean to me in many ways. However, that salty air smell was missing.
What this discussion illustrates is the simple fact the lists like "the most livable state" are plain old stupid. What makes one state livable for me would make it unlivable for someone else.
Any lake that can produce it's own snowstorm in the blink of an eye is impressive in my book! I've made many white-knuckle trips home through lake effect snow. Can't say I miss that!
I lived in MI for about 4-5 years and I can say that Lake Michigan did look like the ocean to me in many ways. However, that salty air smell was missing.
What this discussion illustrates is the simple fact the lists like "the most livable state" are plain old stupid. What makes one state livable for me would make it unlivable for someone else.
Well said.
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