Bath: a city on the rise or on the decline? (Phippsburg: university, live in)

[Maineah]

Originally Posted by AustinB

Kittery, Bangor, Cutler, Eastport

They have probably removed Limestone and Brunswick if their intelligence is up to date.

[AustinB]

Originally Posted by Maineah

They have probably removed Limestone and Brunswick if their intelligence is up to date.

Maybe not though, the runways are still quite useable, and Lorings is one of the longest in the country.

[Maineah]

Originally Posted by AustinB

Maybe not though, the runways are still quite useable, and Lorings is one of the longest in the country.

True. If that was the case they must be targeting just about every airport as well.

[AustinB]

Originally Posted by Maineah

True. If that was the case they must be targeting just about every airport as well.

Only the ones big enough and useable for tankers and bomebers. Eastport is on the list because of the ants.

[Maineah]

Originally Posted by AustinB

Only the ones big enough and useable for tankers and bomebers. Eastport is on the list because of the ants.

Oh great! You know what radiation does to ants don't you!! They become the size of an oil tanker then take over large cities. Nothing can stop them.... not even flame throwers or bazookas. Really....I saw it on TV once.

[Coaster]

Originally Posted by Maineah

Bath is...and remains a primary nuclear target for Russia. Just so you know. If it ever happens Bath will be vaporized in a heartbeat along with Wiscassett to the north and all the way south to about Yarmouth.

Primary? Hardly. Too many other much more important and bigger targets to hit before they worked their way down to Bath, if they ever did. I've always been amused by the nuclear chauvinism that people everywhere -- not just Maine -- exhibit where they actually boast about their targetability in a nuclear war. I had a friend in Searsport who insisted that town was a major target because it was the terminus for the jet fuel line that went to Loring AFB in Limestone. Why the Soviet Union would ever bother to waste a nuke on a tiny Maine town when the real target, Loring, would likely no longer exist was not part of the logic. Sort of like targeting Eastport -- there's nothing there to hurt.

Brunswick Naval air Station would have definitely attracted attention because of its subhunter aircraft, but now that's no longer a factor either.

Just curious, Maineah, but why would the Russians waste nukes on Wiscasset or Yarmouth? Certainly a single device wouldn't cover that area. Even the 50-megaton Tsar Bomba, the largest nuclear weapon ever exploded, had a fireball only 2.3 kilometers in diameter. Only one was ever made, and it was too large physically to be mounted on a warhead. Nuclear warshot devices are generally in the kiloton range these days because they're so accurate.

Ants? You mean those red biting ones? One good dose of radiation and we'll be fighting off hordes of them the size of Volkswagens! Frankly, I'd rather face the Russians. ;->

[Maineah]

Originally Posted by Coaster

Primary? Hardly. Too many other much more important and bigger targets to hit before they worked their way down to Bath, if they ever did. I've always been amused by the nuclear chauvinism that people everywhere -- not just Maine -- exhibit where they actually boast about their targetability in a nuclear war. I had a friend in Searsport who insisted that town was a major target because it was the terminus for the jet fuel line that went to Loring AFB in Limestone. Why the Soviet Union would ever bother to waste a nuke on a tiny Maine town when the real target, Loring, would likely no longer exist was not part of the logic. Sort of like targeting Eastport -- there's nothing there to hurt.

Brunswick Naval air Station would have definitely attracted attention because of its subhunter aircraft, but now that's no longer a factor either.

Just curious, Maineah, but why would the Russians waste nukes on Wiscasset or Yarmouth? Certainly a single device wouldn't cover that area. Even the 50-megaton Tsar Bomba, the largest nuclear weapon ever exploded, had a fireball only 2.3 kilometers in diameter. Only one was ever made, and it was too large physically to be mounted on a warhead. Nuclear warshot devices are generally in the kiloton range these days because they're so accurate.

It's not the fireball it's the blast radius. The 500 mile per hour winds would knock down buildings for a 15 mile radius with only a 15 megaton blast. The ocean won't slow that blast wave one iota. Let's not forget the radiation and fallout from these blasts. An easterly wind would ensure destruction and deaths far inland.
It's a short hop across the bay to Yarmouth to the south and Wiscassett to the north. You need to re-read your nuclear statistics. The Castle Bravo shot by the USA was 20 megatons and produced a fireball over four miles across in less than one second! The blast created a crater over a mile wide and 250 feet deep!!! Significant fallout was detected over 100 miles down wind from the blast.
If they did target Bath or any other strategic area do you think they would send just one nuclear warhead and expect it to do the job?? Not hardly. They woud MAKE SURE the job was done with multiple warheads. With thousands of warheads targeting many hundreds of strategic military sites rest assured there are still several primary targets in Maine. To believe otherwise amounts to whistling past the graveyard.

[MRVphotog]

There is a old cannery on the river that has closed and some developers a few years ago wanted to buy the property and put in some shopping and condos. The town voted it down.

Nice camera shop in town.

[Submariner]

Originally Posted by Coaster

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Brunswick Naval air Station would have definitely attracted attention because of its subhunter aircraft, but now that's no longer a factor either. ...

NAS Brunswick was a school. They taught 'Search and Research' and 'sub-hunting' techniques [Not that SAR is not important, and not that the ability of teaching 'sub-hunting' is not important].

However in the big scheme of things, as a school and not a combat operational command it does rather lessen the 'target-ness' of the region.

Other NAS' that actually operate those big bad scary Search and Reseach types would be far more, uh on the map.

Places like JAX have operational ASW aircraft too, but mostly the aircraft at JAX are there for repair. Because once into the ASW role the aircrews are assigned to Carrier Battle Groups [and not NSAs].

[Maineah]

Originally Posted by forest beekeeper

NAS Brunswick was a school. They taught 'Search and Research' and 'sub-hunting' techniques [Not that SAR is not important, and not that the ability of teaching 'sub-hunting' is not important].

However in the big scheme of things, as a school and not a combat operational command it does rather lessen the 'target-ness' of the region.

Other NAS' that actually operate those big bad scary Search and Reseach types would be far more, uh on the map.

Places like JAX have operational ASW aircraft too, but mostly the aircraft at JAX are there for repair. Because once into the ASW role the aircrews are assigned to Carrier Battle Groups [and not NSAs].

BNAS stored nuclear torpedoes on the base. Perhaps the Russians (then Soviets) knew of this and targeted BNAS as a strategic target. We put fence around the magazine under armed guard in the late 70's. We were told then by some of the guards there were indeed nuclear weapons at the base.