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Old 04-09-2011, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Bar Harbor, ME
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Has anyone noticed that for the most part, people who personally know the area and consequences are against the park. They personally know the reality of the area and that the idea of a well-visited park and a lot of jobs is ridiculous. People who haven't been there, who have no knowledge of their own, like the idea and don't care who or what is hurt as long as they can have what they want. Reality vs fantasy. Fact vs fiction.
I have maintained and still maintain that the who propaganda about putting a park there and buying up the land for a park is simply a scam to keep the people who could do something about the vast purchases from actually doing anything. Anyone who understands how things work can easily see through the scam because you don't have to live there to know.

Quimby and her people are simply scamming everybody with this Maine National Park story so that the groups don't get together to oppose her. This propaganda keeps everyone fractinated and at each other's throats while the multi-national corps for she is only the "front-man" buying up the land for some other farther reaching purpose. The rural cleansing idea is just another part of the propaganda.

There is something that is far greater that she and those MNC's will gain by owning the vast majority of physical land in the state of Maine. When you find out what it is, then you will know why the land is being bought up, and then you might be able to do something about it. But personally, I think its too late.


The north woods are just another part of the iceberg that lies beneath the surface of what is on the surface.

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Old 04-09-2011, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Bar Harbor, ME
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The northern woods... when the oil runs out.:

"Can the Region Transition off of Heating Oil?

"There is a solution to the problem that can not only lower heating costs dramatically but can also eliminate the dependence on heating oil; and that solution can also keep the money spent on fuel in the local economy and stop our exporting hundreds of millions of dollars and destroying tens of thousands of jobs. The solution is to use fuel from our own forests and from dedicated energy crops grown on fallow land.



Curing Maine's Addiction to Heating Oil | Renewable Energy News Article

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Old 04-09-2011, 10:36 PM
 
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The northern woods... when the oil runs out.:

"Can the Region Transition off of Heating Oil?

"There is a solution to the problem that can not only lower heating costs dramatically but can also eliminate the dependence on heating oil; and that solution can also keep the money spent on fuel in the local economy and stop our exporting hundreds of millions of dollars and destroying tens of thousands of jobs. The solution is to use fuel from our own forests and from dedicated energy crops grown on fallow land.



Curing Maine's Addiction to Heating Oil | Renewable Energy News Article
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Maine “exports” about $720,000,000 per year in what I call our “oil tax” because Maine homes use about 300 million gallons per year of heating oil and, according to the EIA’s Home Heating Oil Report for 2010, 78% of every dollar spent on heating oil leaves the Maine economy. If that money were to stay in the Maine economy it would produce about 41,000 new jobs that do not currently exist.
Thanks for the link. This is an excellent read. If Maine is in economic trouble now, just wait until heating oil is $8.

It's amazing that the forest isn't used more for heat. While I know almost nothing about papermaking and paper mills, I'm also surprised that the paper mills don't all, already have biomass boilers. That is, the mill that was supposed to get the biomass boiler in the Millinocket sale, I was amazed to hear it was fueled with oil. I think the mill in Rumford is co-fired with biomass and coal.

That's just got to change some or Maine is toast.
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Old 04-10-2011, 05:58 AM
 
Location: Teton Valley Idaho
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Well, egads!! We're in desperate trouble and we didn't even know it!!

Come on, Robin, to the Bat Cave! There's not a moment to lose!
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Old 04-10-2011, 06:16 AM
 
Location: Northern Maine
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Zarathu sees the solution:
"The solution is to use fuel from our own forests and from dedicated energy crops grown on fallow land."

And we have a head start. Since 1940 Maine has gained an average of 77,000 acres a year of forest. Yes, gained. That is more than three townships or an area of about six miles by 18 miles.

AlGore should be pleased. Maine has sequestered more new carbon than any other similar area on the planet.

Where did all the new forest come from? It came from the loss of pasture and cultivated land. This loss of pasture and meadows has devastated the meadow lark population. Where is the environmental industry on this ecological apocalypse for the meadow larks? Oh, the horror of it all!
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Old 04-10-2011, 07:04 AM
 
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post retracted.
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Old 04-10-2011, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Bangor
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"What's her face Quimby has some other devious purpose that nobody really knows."

Two words: Rural cleansing.
Sure I've heard the term. You can't live here without running across it now and then, but....

Why is there Rural Cleansing? This isn't Yugoslavia or Uganda, I hope.

Why: "Dismantling industrial civilization piece by piece".

Why would people want to do this? Is this some foreign conspiracy? I'm clueless and I hope someone can help me.
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Old 04-10-2011, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Northern Maine
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beltrams correctly observes:
"That's just got to change some or Maine is toast"

Help is on the way, but the new guys just arrived in January and are beginning to peel the onion. The more layers they remove the more rot they find.
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Old 04-10-2011, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Northern Maine
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"Why would people want to do this? Is this some foreign conspiracy? I'm clueless and I hope someone can help me."

There is indeed an agenda. It is international in scope. In fact, the agenda has a number. You can google it. Just type in Agenda 21 and you'll have reading to last you all summer.
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Old 04-10-2011, 02:38 PM
 
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Mod Note:

While I enjoy a good conspiracy theory as much as the next fella, let's stick with National Park angle as outlined in the OP, please.
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