Sad Day for Northern Maine (Bangor, Ashland: lease, buy, living)

[Dude111]

Originally Posted by Northern Maine Land Man

It's a sad day for Northern Maine. Governor LePage just signed the LURC bill. Much more to follow.

Wow that isnt good at all!!

I hope you guys STAND UP and try and get it reversed!!

[Northern Maine Land Man]

Never fear, Fourleafclover; Less than one percent of LURC territory is zoned for development and Maine is gaining forest every year. The srory that we are losing any forest or habitat is a myth. We have net gains everywhere. We are also losing homes and camps faster than we are gaining them. There is a name for all of this. It is rural cleansing. It is real and it is increasing.

[Evan_Lanctot]

For once I agree with something LePage has done.

[Submariner]

Originally Posted by Evan_Lanctot

For once I agree with something LePage has done.

There was a movement afoot to try to shutdown LURC. Many Mainers had seen LURC become: too powerful, out-of-touch from Mainers, and under the control of out-of-state environmental lobbyiests.



The adaptation of the latest CLUP reads mostly like an environmentalist's dream. Which is fine so long as everyone is okay with being forced to leave the UTs.

As NMLM has stated many times many of these people have been living in Maine for multiple generations.

To force someone from his/her home via Eminent Domain is one thing, at least they get paid for it. But forcing everyone out of the UTs by way of zoning, is messed up.



The effort to shut it down entirely failed. Such is politics.

But changes have been made. In it's place, 'they' have been stripped of power over forestry and windmills.

'They' have been booted out of Augusta.

'They' are forced to now have one member to represent each county [which is far different from representing the highest paying lobbyiests].

Best of all they are forced to amend their policies to include human presence.



I think that LePage has done a good job in this topic.



Maybe in the future, when they print up a new CLUP, they will mail it to everyone owning land in Maine, and not restrict the mailing to only out-of-state land-owners. Like LURC did with the previous CLUP.

[Northern Maine Land Man]

One percent, forest beekeeper, one percent. That's what they have zoned for development. Did you catch the brass ring? Is your land in the one percent? Too bad for those who own land in the other 99% not zoned for development.

I went to a meeting in Grand Lake Stream about 15 years ago when the environmental industry was promoting the idea of the Down East Lakes Biosphere. They wanted no development. I told them it was bad for the people who live here. They indignantly asked what I wanted. I was glad they asked.

I want my grandson to have the same rights and privileges that my grandfather had. I want him to be able to build a camp. I want him to be able to build a boathouse in the lake if he wants one. I watched a boathouse built in the lake. It didn't hurt the lake one bit and the fishing was better then.

The elite environmentalists are always horrified at liberty. They always have been.

[Submariner]

Originally Posted by Northern Maine Land Man

One percent, forest beekeeper, one percent. That's what they have zoned for development. Did you catch the brass ring? Is your land in the one percent? Too bad for those who own land in the other 99% not zoned for development.

I understand what happened to Plum Creek and how out-of-state environmentalists raped Mainers.

I get it.

Now the calendar pages fill by and time marches on.

The LURC who did that no longer exists.

MLUPC will be under a different set of directions [for a few years until out-of-state deep pockets can once again wrest control from Mainers].

... I went to a meeting in Grand Lake Stream about 15 years ago when the environmental industry was promoting the idea of the Down East Lakes Biosphere. They wanted no development. I told them it was bad for the people who live here. They indignantly asked what I wanted. I was glad they asked.

I want my grandson to have the same rights and privileges that my grandfather had. I want him to be able to build a camp. I want him to be able to build a boathouse in the lake if he wants one. I watched a boathouse built in the lake. It didn't hurt the lake one bit and the fishing was better then.

The elite environmentalists are always horrified at liberty. They always have been.

Yes. I know, we see their hand at work in the current CLUP [which is soon to be re-written].

The war will never be won, it will wage on and on, until that day when we all hear the Trump of the Lord sounding.

This day a battle was won.

[Northern Maine Land Man]

"MLUPC will be under a different set of directions [for a few years until out-of-state deep pockets can once again wrest control from Mainers]."

There will be two more members as vacancies occur, but the hated CLUP remains. It's in the law. Sorry to see you think a battle was won. Most of us lost; big time. By statute, the CLUP is supposed to be updated every 10 years. They liked the last one so much they kept it for 14 years.

[Submariner]

This bill mandates that the CLUP be re-written to include their new focus.

[Bangorboy]

Originally Posted by Northern Maine Land Man

Never fear, Fourleafclover; Less than one percent of LURC territory is zoned for development and Maine is gaining forest every year. The srory that we are losing any forest or habitat is a myth. We have net gains everywhere. We are also losing homes and camps faster than we are gaining them. There is a name for all of this. It is rural cleansing. It is real and it is increasing.

I have been going up into the north Maine woods for almost sixty years. Around allagash lake,chamberlian,Foley, and the west branch. If someone can't see the increase of camps, garbage, campers hidden in the woods and just the general deterioration of that area then there not looking. When the paper companies owned it they kept it good it was in their interest!Something has to be done with it if MONEY get a hold of it it will be gone. If you haven't spent a week or so way back in the woods alone or with your childern where there are no camp sites or anything just nature you'll never know what you'll lose but it will be gone and you'll never get it back. But then some people will build a big multi dollar camp that they'll go to for 4or 5 days a year but can tell all their friends what a great camp they have in the North Maine wood and what trouble they have keeping the local scum out!! Then the signs will go up-- NO TRESPASSING--

[IRV007]

My father-in law ran a hunting camp out of Hancock County for 40 years. The main lodge house had trophy deer and moose heads mounted on the walls.

The Republicans WILL take away your hunting rights!

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