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Old 04-23-2013, 04:35 AM
 
Location: Dade City, Fl.
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I saw on the news the other day that around 250 lobsterman voted to join the I.A.M. union. They must be very desperate! Having belonged to that union back in the 70's and 80's I know from where I speak. All this is going to accomplish is higher priced lobsters and the lobstermen will be paying out more to the union for dues, etc. Unions have long since outlived their usefulness and as we have all seen, driven many companies to the brink of disaster or had the government bail them out at OUR expense!!
I have a friend that worked for the california university system, retired at 62, at 110% of her salary and full medical benefits for life......any wonder Ca. is going broke??
I have a great deal of respect for lobstermen/women, but sorry folks I think you really messed up this time.
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Old 04-23-2013, 07:47 AM
 
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I see that you've bought into the corporate world's hype to get rid of Unions. it so sad the see this.
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Old 04-23-2013, 07:54 AM
 
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Don't think Labor Unions fill an important void?

Then you must not mind that the owners of Walmart get rich while YOU pay for their employee nutrional programs, health care, and social sevices.

Lobstermen have been going broke for the past decade. I don't completely know the reasons (regulation and fuel prices are certainly not helping), but they have to do something to survive. If joining a labor union helps them, then i support that.
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Old 04-23-2013, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Maine's garden spot
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Don't think Labor Unions fill an important void?

Then you must not mind that the owners of Walmart get rich while YOU pay for their employee nutrional programs, health care, and social sevices.

Lobstermen have been going broke for the past decade. I don't completely know the reasons (regulation and fuel prices are certainly not helping), but they have to do something to survive. If joining a labor union helps them, then i support that.
Lobstermen are far from going broke. Sure prices have been low for the past few summers, but they haven't bothered to mention that they are catching from 800- 1000 lbs. a day.
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Old 04-24-2013, 08:05 AM
 
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I like when union members slag on their own unions but you never see them turn their noses up at the pensions, the fair work conditions, or benefits that the the union help negotiate...

No doubt there is plenty of non-so-nice stuff unions pull (especially in places like the education system)...

If you don't like unions, you don't have to work in a place that has them. Go find another job. At least that is the argument I get when I criticize the working conditions at Walmart or in the restaurant biz. Just like those people can go find another job, the anti-union worker can too, right?
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Old 04-24-2013, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Northern Maine
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The establishment of a union presupposes that there is some management or ownership to negotiate with. Where is there any management of the lobster fishing industry other than the individual lobstermen themselves? Most licenses are passed down from generation to generation in the same families.
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Old 04-24-2013, 09:51 AM
 
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The establishment of a union presupposes that there is some management or ownership to negotiate with. Where is there any management of the lobster fishing industry other than the individual lobstermen themselves? Most licenses are passed down from generation to generation in the same families.
With buying groups and/or product distributors I guess? I would think a co-op of fisherman would be a more obvious choice.
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Old 04-24-2013, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Maine's garden spot
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With buying groups and/or product distributors I guess? I would think a co-op of fisherman would be a more obvious choice.


They already have co-ops. They are part of the price fixers too. Of course ultimately, it comes down to whatever the market will bear. The middle men are making the lions share of the money.
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Old 04-24-2013, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Way South of the Volvo Line
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Lobstermen will not make a decent share of the profit until they eliminate the middleman and retail direct to the public in some fashion. Many small, embattled family farms have manged to survive and even thrive by doing this. I would sooner buy lobster direct from the fisherman than from a grocery or even a lobster pond sometimes.
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Old 04-24-2013, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Maine's garden spot
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Lobstermen will not make a decent share of the profit until they eliminate the middleman and retail direct to the public in some fashion. Many small, embattled family farms have manged to survive and even thrive by doing this. I would sooner buy lobster direct from the fisherman than from a grocery or even a lobster pond sometimes.
You do know that a large portion of a fisherman's income is a cash business...
The co-op are supposed to do this for them, but I know from a previous life, that they help set the price.
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