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Old 10-29-2015, 06:18 AM
 
Location: Northern Maine
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That's good news. Can we get a roof over the pier so we can load paper products?
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Old 10-29-2015, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Maine
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The mill in Baileyville is buying and installing tissue machines as fast as they can.
Have you been out this way lately? The tissue mill is coming right along. The first two machines will go online in a few months and four to five more will follow later on. Tissue mill employees are in training at WCCC now so that they'll be ready to hit the floor running on opening day.

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The railroad that used to support The Woodland mill is now the John Baldacci recreational trail.
The mill still uses the railroad to transport fiber into the mill.

Less pulp will be leaving Woodland Pulp through Eastport. It will be moved to Woodland Tissue, located in the same complex. More jobs kept here, less sent overseas.

The investors who own Woodland Pulp have done something Americans and Canadians stopped doing well in Woodland - running profitable mills. They also own a mill on the west coast. There's more to the loss of mills than using less paper. We have a lot of new things to learn about a very old industry but for most, it won't happen.
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Old 10-29-2015, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Northern Maine
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"The mill still uses the railroad to transport fiber into the mill."

Last time I was down that way, the rails on our side of the brook were gone. Glad to hear the Canadians are sending wood across the river to keep the mill going. The mill is going to need a lot of fiber and there are more than enough Americans who want to supply it.
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Old 10-29-2015, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Maine
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"The mill still uses the railroad to transport fiber into the mill."

Last time I was down that way, the rails on our side of the brook were gone. Glad to hear the Canadians are sending wood across the river to keep the mill going. The mill is going to need a lot of fiber and there are more than enough Americans who want to supply it.
Canadians? I just asked the procurement manager. The train has to go through Canada to get to the mill but the majority of the wood comes from Fort Kent and Ashland.
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Old 10-30-2015, 04:22 AM
 
Location: Northern Maine
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Is it Irving wood?
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Old 10-30-2015, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Maine
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Is it Irving wood?
Some is but I can't say how much. That's a question he didn't answer. Probably not as much as you think.
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Old 10-31-2015, 03:16 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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Something that struck me when I was studying forestry in Maine was that rapid growing eucalyptus could be grown, cut, and processed in South America, then shipped here, cheaper than we can even cut the trees down for in Maine. Free trade which benefits a few at the expense of the majority has done more to kill off our domestic timber and paper industry than the reduced consumption of paper has. We still use a lot of paper, just in different forms and ways. But we can't compete with slave labor processing stolen at worst and unsustainable at best tropical woods.
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Old 10-31-2015, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Northern Maine
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The Chinese built a huge pond and a lock in Brazil. They dug a canal from the river and brought a whole pulp mill from China to Brazil. They floated the pulp mill into the canal and dammed it up. Then they pumped river water into the temporary pond or lake. They floated it into place and let the lake flow back into the river. The new mill was soon running and China brought a second mill over.

Those eucalyptus trees grow from a seedling to pulpwood in seven years. Brazil has it's fingers crossed because their whole system is predicated on a uniculture. If some parasite or plant disease should appear, they are out of business.

It is a good bright white pulp, but it is not as strong as our northern spruce fiber.
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Old 10-31-2015, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Betwixt and Between
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UGH! Am I the only one who thinks cellulose looks better in it's natural state as a forest full of critters than it does on a roll that I'm about to wipe my arse with? There are alternatives; google "bidet"
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Old 11-01-2015, 04:25 AM
 
Location: Maine
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Something that struck me when I was studying forestry in Maine was that rapid growing eucalyptus could be grown, cut, and processed in South America, then shipped here, cheaper than we can even cut the trees down for in Maine. Free trade which benefits a few at the expense of the majority has done more to kill off our domestic timber and paper industry than the reduced consumption of paper has. We still use a lot of paper, just in different forms and ways. But we can't compete with slave labor processing stolen at worst and unsustainable at best tropical woods.
They did it in Woodland for a special run of the bright white NMLM mentioned, and it wasn't less expensive.
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