Maybe it's time to Nationalize Oil (Mars Hill: 2013, buying, subsidized)

[Bydand]

All I noticed at first is the statement of it will cost $96 to fill your truck. My first thoughts were that it already costs me $140 to fill mine when it is close to empty.

[dmyankee]

Bill Gates recently said that if the auto manufacturers put as much time and money into R&D as the computer industry, the last couple of decades, we would be driving 100 miles on a quart of gasoline!

That being said; if we had begun drilling in ANWAR, 7 years ago, the first oil would be hitting the market this year at $100/44 gallon bbl. Keep electing numbnuts to congress and this is what you get.

Solar and wind efficiencies are only i the 20-30% range at their best right now. If you care to use a little solar and wind and get off the grid, more power to you. I am very wary of investors trading in carbon credits. I just look at the players and the sleazy hedge fund managers lining their pockets at the expense of the populace.

Dicky-Lincoln was defeated years ago. Remember the bumper stickers proclaiming "No Way Big A." Just about that time, the State felt the need to waste time and money transplanting Caribou to the North Woods. Priorities are skewed. There is a natural gas pipeline running through the heart of Maine. We get no benefit. What's with that. No one seems to want an LNG terminal. The voted down a coal gasification plant at Wiscasset last fall.

[Maineah]

Originally Posted by flycessna

..tell our children to stop majoring in LAW, stop depending on a good government job or aspiring to work for a non profit and get a education in science......engineering.......electronics....ect. go out and invent.......lets cultivate scientists and inventors.......free thinkers. INDA...CHINA.....Japan...are all producing a highly educated and technical workforce while we produce lawyers

Sorry I offended anyone......but that’s my rant for the day

Couldn't agree with you more!

[Maineah]

Originally Posted by Coaster

My greatest fear is that the energy crunch will arrive -- is arriving -- so quickly that we won't have time to transition to alternatives and still maintain our current standard of living.

My greatest fear as well.

[Maineah]

[quote=dmyankee;3016992]Bill Gates recently said that if the auto manufacturers put as much time and money into R&D as the computer industry, the last couple of decades, we would be driving 100 miles on a quart of gasoline!

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An automotive executive said something to the effect that if Bill Gates made cars they would stop in the middle of the highway for no apparent reason and need to be restarted constantly.

[Maineah]

Originally Posted by Bydand

All I noticed at first is the statement of it will cost $96 to fill your truck. My first thoughts were that it already costs me $140 to fill mine when it is close to empty.

You must have a big truck! I was talking about an average 1/2 ton pickup with a 24 gallon tank.

[Bydand]

Originally Posted by Maineah

You must have a big truck! I was talking about an average 1/2 ton pickup with a 24 gallon tank.

Two of the dreaded Suburbans. One has a 42 gallon tank the other has a 40 gallon tank. I can go for a few weeks though on either of them, so it isn't really that bad. The 1/2 ton one actually gets about 18-20 in town and 24-25 on the highway. 3/4 ton doesn't do that well .

[Maineah]

Originally Posted by Bydand

Two of the dreaded Suburbans. One has a 42 gallon tank the other has a 40 gallon tank. I can go for a few weeks though on either of them, so it isn't really that bad. The 1/2 ton one actually gets about 18-20 in town and 24-25 on the highway. 3/4 ton doesn't do that well .

42 gallons is a big tank. I had an '88 Ford F-150 4x4 with two 20 gallon tanks and a dashboard switch to select between them. I never understood what the reasoning was for the two tanks in that truck especially given the fact it had the 300 cu. in. six cylinder engine. I wouldn't want to fill two 20 gallon tanks now! At least you don't have to fill up every week!

[Northern Maine Land Man]

I have not yet read every word in this thread, but I will. I agree with Acadianlion so that's a memorable event in and of itself. I will read the rest of these posts with one thought in mind: Is there any endeavor where government is more efficient than private industry?

[Maineah]

Originally Posted by Northern Maine Land Man

I have not yet read every word in this thread, but I will. I agree with Acadianlion so that's a momorable event in and of itself. I will read the rest of these posts with one thought in mind: Is there any endeavor where government is more efficient than private industry?

No You're exactly right. I personally do not think nationalizing big oil is the way to go and this is the reason I started the thread witha quote from someone else. I wanted to see some passionate debate and ideas on what to do about oil and energy in general. if I had started the thread by saying everything is fine the government is looking out for us and things will all work out in the end it wouldn't have stirred much debate. As it is I'm encouraged by the depth of the responses going beyond the reactionary,blaming the oil companies and blatant greed, to the problems with the strength of the dollar worldwide,the government being bed partners with the oil companies,the lobbiests,the cost of the war, the lack of incentives for alternative energy sources, education etc. You really are a bright group!