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Old 01-30-2009, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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I have been researching Maine for quite some time and recently learned that the State is trying to legalize gay marriage.

Do you think that it will pass?

I am in a committed gay relationship for over 5 years and would love to live in a state that gave equal rights to all. We, in Minnesota, having very few rights protecting us.

Just so this post doesn't turn into a war zone I don't care as to religious theology. The question would be political equality. If the State is going give a document to two people for legal and tax rights, it should not make it available to some and not to others.
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Old 01-30-2009, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Maine's garden spot
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I don't really agree with the statement about political equality. I consider it more of economic equality. Yes, I think that it could well pass in this legislature. They will do about anything in Augusta to distract people from looking at what they are actually doing there right now.
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Old 01-30-2009, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Maine
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Sensitive subject, of course. Wow, I'm NOT well known for tact around here, (SSShhhh y'all! ) but let me go on my limb and hope I word this with political correctness.

I believe that same sex marriages will become legal in all states as our country progresses as a people and develop better attitudes of tolerance and acceptance. I may be naive there, but this is my humble opinion. Some will say, now that we've finally elected our first African American President, ANYTHING is possible, and MANY things will happen just because that door has been opened, THANK GOODNESS! It's about damned time!

I also believe that the government (of Maine or any other part of our nation) has absolutely NO business in religious OR personal affairs. They *supposedly* can't meddle in church affairs, leaving citizens to worship and give money to whomever and however they choose, but they can still tell a man or woman who they can legally commit their lives to outside the church?

Uhuh. That, in my opinion, is definitely employing a double standard and is just plain wrong.

That's my 2 cents! And when I'm a legal citizen of Maine, I'll voice my opinion on paper that counts.
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Old 01-30-2009, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Sensitive subject, of course. Wow, I'm NOT well known for tact around here, (SSShhhh y'all! ) but let me go on my limb and hope I word this with political correctness.
I am also not very politically correct - but I am trying to not get a "reputation".

I just do not know how Maine politics work... I hope it will pass (but that is my opinion).
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Old 01-30-2009, 10:20 PM
 
Location: some where maine
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I am also not very politically correct - but I am trying to not get a "reputation".

I just do not know how Maine politics work... I hope it will pass (but that is my opinion).
maine politics dont work that's the problem.
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Old 01-30-2009, 11:15 PM
 
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I have been researching Maine for quite some time and recently learned that the State is trying to legalize gay marriage.

Do you think that it will pass?

I am in a committed gay relationship for over 5 years and would love to live in a state that gave equal rights to all. We, in Minnesota, having very few rights protecting us.

Just so this post doesn't turn into a war zone I don't care as to religious theology. The question would be political equality. If the State is going give a document to two people for legal and tax rights, it should not make it available to some and not to others.


Do you have some factual basis for this, perhaps in the form of a link to a creditable source, or are you just initiating a discussion on the matter?
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Old 01-31-2009, 01:32 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Maine gay marriage law proposed - Bangor Daily News (http://bangornews.com/detail/97129.html - broken link)
GLAD - Equal Justice Under Law | News & Multimedia | News | GLAD Applauds Marriage Legislation in Maine
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Old 01-31-2009, 07:06 AM
 
Location: 3.5 sq mile island ant nest next to Canada
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Boy, what a hornets nest. Glad to see you didn't just start up the thread and run like h*ll. I agree with AustinB; more economic than political. From what i gather, not knowing much about it, there is no guarentee (? can't think of the right word) that in the event of a death of one the other person has no financial or estate rights. Also health benefits where one person works and the other doesn't work outside the home. Correct?

I don't believe that in this instance marriage is the answer. I think this sort of stuff is why we have lawyers. You can talk love and committment but their are heteros that cohabitate and never get married who are sort of in the same boat. My opinion is there ought to be something that satisfies all people that can't or don't get married. Such as setting up the estates beforehand. Or businesses that offer health ins. etc making it available to partners. Home Depot was talking about doing that once. Of course that was affter they caught it for the pet insurance fiasco.
Now this is assuming that I have the correct idea on it.

I'm a traditionalist and I don't see same sex relationships as a marriage, per se. I think it is cohabitation like people who don't want to get married. I also think there are a few on both sides that only bring it up to get more press for their cause. Give them a big spoon because they simply want to stir up s**t. Anyway, that's my opinion. Hope I didn't scuff any shoes.
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Old 01-31-2009, 07:59 AM
 
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Boy, what a hornets nest. Glad to see you didn't just start up the thread and run like h*ll. I agree with AustinB; more economic than political. From what i gather, not knowing much about it, there is no guarentee (? can't think of the right word) that in the event of a death of one the other person has no financial or estate rights. Also health benefits where one person works and the other doesn't work outside the home. Correct?

I don't believe that in this instance marriage is the answer. I think this sort of stuff is why we have lawyers. You can talk love and committment but their are heteros that cohabitate and never get married who are sort of in the same boat. My opinion is there ought to be something that satisfies all people that can't or don't get married. Such as setting up the estates beforehand. Or businesses that offer health ins. etc making it available to partners. Home Depot was talking about doing that once. Of course that was affter they caught it for the pet insurance fiasco.
Now this is assuming that I have the correct idea on it.

I'm a traditionalist and I don't see same sex relationships as a marriage, per se. I think it is cohabitation like people who don't want to get married. I also think there are a few on both sides that only bring it up to get more press for their cause. Give them a big spoon because they simply want to stir up s**t. Anyway, that's my opinion. Hope I didn't scuff any shoes.
good post,,though my views have softened thru the years on this subject, i believe a different approach would work better than calling it "MARRIAGE"
a life "partnership" or something to that affect, because as one post mentioned, if gay "marriage" is passed, what about the men/woman living together???
"marriage" has been ingrained in most of us,,its between a man and a woman,,
put another way, if i go to the hardware store and ask for a hammer, and the clerk brings me a sledge hammer, thats not what i asked for,, it may be still a hammer in his mind,,,but two different things
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Old 01-31-2009, 08:04 AM
 
Location: 3.5 sq mile island ant nest next to Canada
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good post,,though my views have softened thru the years on this subject, i believe a different approach would work better than calling it "MARRIAGE"
a life "partnership" or something to that affect, because as one post mentioned, if gay "marriage" is passed, what about the men/woman living together???
"marriage" has been ingrained in most of us,,its between a man and a woman,,
put another way, if i go to the hardware store and ask for a hammer, and the clerk brings me a sledge hammer, thats not what i asked for,, it may be still a hammer in his mind,,,but two different things
Yes, that's what I was trying to get across. Didn't do it well. Not enough coffee yet.
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