RE: Police cracking down on excise tax evaders (Bangor, Old Town: sales, car insurance)

[Submariner]

I was reading a few of the stories that the Bangor Daily News service emailed me and I saw this one:

Police cracking down on excise tax evaders - Bangor Daily News (http://www.bangordailynews.com/detail/131025.html - broken link)?

"Police cracking down on excise tax evaders"

And in it I read this segment:

... In Maine, it would cost $305 in excise taxes and fees to register a 3-year-old midsize car with a retail price of $20,000; the same vehicle would cost $313.20 to register in New Hampshire.

And I must wonder, is it truly such a huge savings to register you vehicles in NH?

[RANGER.101ST]

it cost's me 6300 in excise tax a year to regester my kenworth 1100 for the trailer pickup is 365.
i will admit the maine govt are greedy but no one will vote to lower the tax or make them spend less.
so untill the maine people decide they have had enough the tax will keep going up.

[Acadianlion]

Excise taxes for vehicles are a local tax. The exicse tax remains in the town where the vehicle is domiciled and the tax pays to help maintain the town roads, pay for plowing town roads and so on. This is an old subject.

I wonder if it is really a lot less expensive to live in New Hampshire than to live in Maine. I know that everyone likes to complain about their taxes, but at the end of the day, I wonder how many services and functions of government people are willing to give up to radically lower taxes.

We can begin with the question of how many people want to spend their time to get involved in state and local government to directly help to develop and shape the policies that will radically cut the costs of governmental operation, and then SELL those changes and reductions to a general public that supposedly "wants" these reductions.

The school consolidation issue is one of those changes that represents an effort at reducing the cost of education and hence the cost of property taxes. When the proposal was presented, it was not the RIGHT proposal for many people and became an enormous bonfire of disinformation, misinformation, backbiting, and assorted hogwash.

At the end of the day, reductions in spending means a reduction in services, and most people don't want to see any LESS from government, they just don't realize that they have to pay for it or do without. Most people don't like to do without anything that they think should be "free".

[GarlicGuy]

they would still make out considering no sales tax and they probably aren't getting auto insurance aside from paying excise tax each year.

[RANGER.101ST]

Originally Posted by Acadianlion

Excise taxes for vehicles are a local tax. The exicse tax remains in the town where the vehicle is domiciled and the tax pays to help maintain the town roads, pay for plowing town roads and so on. This is an old subject.

I wonder if it is really a lot less expensive to live in New Hampshire than to live in Maine. I know that everyone likes to complain about their taxes, but at the end of the day, I wonder how many services and functions of government people are willing to give up to radically lower taxes.

We can begin with the question of how many people want to spend their time to get involved in state and local government to directly help to develop and shape the policies that will radically cut the costs of governmental operation, and then SELL those changes and reductions to a general public that supposedly "wants" these reductions.

The school consolidation issue is one of those changes that represents an effort at reducing the cost of education and hence the cost of property taxes. When the proposal was presented, it was not the RIGHT proposal for many people and became an enormous bonfire of disinformation, misinformation, backbiting, and assorted hogwash.

At the end of the day, reductions in spending means a reduction in services, and most people don't want to see any LESS from government, they just don't realize that they have to pay for it or do without. Most people don't like to do without anything that they think should be "free".

my excise tax on my truck and trailer go's to the state not the town.
my pickup go's to the town.our tax go's up but the service has gone take the rest aria for instance 98% are shut down but our tax hasn't dropped.

[flycessna]

This is what I found interesting

By professing to live in New Hampshire, Mainers can avoid paying a 5 percent sales tax when they buy a vehicle. They also don’t have to buy car insurance, which is required in Maine but not in New Hampshire. And people who work in New Hampshire also can avoid paying Maine’s income taxes if they claim a New Hampshire residence.

I have to ask...... are these "Mainer’s" who own a home in Maine and are just avoiding MAINE TAXES. Or are these NH residence who are just avoiding NH TAXES?? buying a home in Maine to avoid paying higher NH property taxes and saving some cash on the cost of their home might be an incentive to live here while still working there.

I guess the way I see it is that the government of Maine can go after these people and harass them to pay their fare share of taxes... But eventually they will decide what works for them.. Maybe moving back to NH would work better and Maine will lose out even more.

Maybe Maine should change their laws regarding registration where anyone can register their car here for $50 and they don’t have to be a resident..... The state would MAKE way more money as people would be flocking here to register their vehicles... weather or not they are braking the laws of their own state should be of no concern for us....I doubt NH cares when we go down there to buy stuff tax free and register our boats and what not... But that would take a state government to think outside the box

[cebdark]

I think dishonesty is dishonesty and they should just shut up and pay taxes where they live in accordance with the laws.

They are no better than petty theives IMO.

To me, it really is that simple.

[Fighter 1]

Originally Posted by reloop

I think dishonesty is dishonesty and they should just shut up and pay taxes where they live in accordance with the laws.

They are no better than petty theives IMO.

To me, it really is that simple.

WRONG !!!! they are just like all the politicians in this country " Don't do as i do , do as I say "

[cebdark]

Originally Posted by Fighter 1

WRONG !!!! they are just like all the politicians in this country " Don't do as i do , do as I say "

Well, yes, I think that's pretty much a given (although there are many people besides politicians fit that bill as well IMO).

Either way, it's still illegal, and I'm sure that there would be plenty of people who would complain if the police weren't cracking down on the shirkers.

[Submariner]

Originally Posted by reloop

I think dishonesty is dishonesty and they should just shut up and pay taxes where they live in accordance with the laws.

They are no better than petty theives IMO.

To me, it really is that simple.

I hear what you are saying.

I know folks who are 'snowbirds', they have more than one home. They spend a few months at one home, and a few months at another home, and ...

It is not dishonesty, it is not thievery.

My father is such a snowbird. He has not restricted himself to only one residence since the 1970s.

He is not lying to anyone, nor is he stealing from anyone.

For example when I was just beginning to build my house in Maine, I made trips here and stayed in my motorhome. My family was still living in Ct. I still own a home in Ct, and I had only brought with me two of our vehicles to Me. The remainder of my vehicles were in Ct. Beginning then, I had two residences, in two states.

I had no intent of lying to anyone. Old Town LEOs wanted me to get a Maine DL and to register my vehicle here. Which I did. I still had vehicles in Ct, which still had Ct tags and which needed to have their Ct registrations renewed.

Often people get into the mindset that folks only have one residence. But there are others who are not of that mindset.

There do exist people who do have multiple residences.

Such is not lying, and therefore it is not dishonest.

So long as each vehicle is in full compliance with the laws of where it is being operated, there is no thievery.