Maryland a southern state (Baltimore, Columbia: villages, downtown, residents)

[ukiyo-e]

Well, as a native Marylander, I can settle this once and for all. As a child in the early 1960s, we went to Florida for a vacation once, and a waitress in a restaurant said, "Y'all are northerners - I kin tell bah the way yue tawk!"

[Richard Martin]

Originally Posted by ukiyo-e

Well, as a native Marylander, I can settle this once and for all. As a child in the early 1960s, we went to Florida for a vacation once, and a waitress in a restaurant said, "Y'all are northerners - I kin tell bah the way yue tawk!"

To the people of Maine, anybody that's not from Maine is a Southerner. It's all in the perception. The fine folks in the Deep South consider North Carolina and Virginia to be in the North.

[atl2maryland]

Originally Posted by Richard Martin

To the people of Maine, anybody that's not from Maine is a Southerner. It's all in the perception. The fine folks in the Deep South consider North Carolina and Virginia to be in the North.

I was raised in Alabama and Georgia. I do consider North Carolina to be the South. VA is where you start to get more of that northern vibe the further north you go, especially around the DC area but its still the South. Maryland is in no way southern. The climate, the culture, the mindset of the people are all very different. Maryland is too charmless to even be considered an upper region of the South.

Folks from NY say Maryland is country, which it really is. But it isn't Southern. Parts of Ohio can be very country but its not the south. Parts of the South arent country at all.

[K-Luv]

Originally Posted by Richard Martin

To the people of Maine, anybody that's not from Maine is a Southerner. It's all in the perception. The fine folks in the Deep South consider North Carolina and Virginia to be in the North.

Well, I lived in Maine and anyone who is not from Maine is simply "from away". Not to mention that even if you were born in Maine you are still not from Maine unless you have at least three generations of family buried in a Maine cemetery. Depending on the type of Mainer you want to reference, some consider everything below Augusta, or the Volvo Line, as Southern Maine aka Not the Real Maine aka Northern Massachusetts aka North Boston...or something along those lines. These are the same people that refer to the Maine/New Hampshire border as the Maple Curtain and don't really consider much of anything outside of northern and eastern Maine.

Originally Posted by atl2maryland

Folks from NY say Maryland is country, which it really is. But it isn't Southern. Parts of Ohio can be very country but its not the south. Parts of the South arent country at all.

If this is the case than New York outside of NYC is country as practically the entire State outside of that area is rural.

[BajanYankee]

Originally Posted by atl2maryland

Folks from NY say Maryland is country, which it really is. But it isn't Southern. Parts of Ohio can be very country but its not the south. Parts of the South arent country at all.

I don't see how it could be country but not southern. Maryland had a huge slave population and had a lot of plantations. What's not southern about that? The reason my dad said he became a Redskins fan was because it was the only team "in the South" at the time he was growing up.

Originally Posted by Richard Martin

The fine folks in the Deep South consider North Carolina and Virginia to be in the North.

This is true. I knew someone from Jackson, Mississippi who told me that South Carolina was, in his words, "like the North of the South." So I guess North Carolina and Virginia were definitely out of the question to him.

[David_J]

Originally Posted by BajanYankee

I don't see how it could be country but not southern. Maryland had a huge slave population and had a lot of plantations. What's not southern about that? The reason my dad said he became a Redskins fan was because it was the only team "in the South" at the time he was growing up.

In the past 10 - 20 years, the Southern culture of Maryland has been diluted. Much of it is caused by the high transplant population, but people here don't usually self-identify as Southern, either. Go to other places in the South with a high transplant population, such as Atlanta or Cary, and they will still certainly tell you that they reside in the South.

[BajanYankee]

Originally Posted by David_J

In the past 10 - 20 years, the Southern culture of Maryland has been diluted. Much of it is caused by the high transplant population, but people here don't usually self-identify as Southern, either. Go to other places in the South with a high transplant population, such as Atlanta or Cary, and they will still certainly tell you that they reside in the South.

Depends on who you ask, right?

"For black folks, this is still very much a Southern city," Carr said. "D.C. has very little in common with a stereotypical Northern city."

Carr cited the presence of an entrenched black elite in Washington as a characteristic of Southern cities, along the lines of Atlanta and Charlotte. Its still-living history of sharply segregated neighborhoods is another sign, as well as the paucity of white ethnic neighborhoods, such as Italian or Irish sections of Baltimore, New York and Boston.

D.C. area and Dixie drifting farther and farther apart

[Richard Martin]

Originally Posted by K-Luv

Well, I lived in Maine and anyone who is not from Maine is simply "from away". Not to mention that even if you were born in Maine you are still not from Maine unless you have at least three generations of family buried in a Maine cemetery.

The people of Maine impress me as being a bit standoffish, even much more so than the locals here in NC. At least here in NC, the older locals have come to accept me as one of their own, even if I am from Maryland. But then, it may have finally sunk in to them that no matter what they say or do, I'm not going back to Maryland.

[Tom Lennox 70]

I'm wondering if some people here can give y'alls perspective on the Eastern Shore and how Southern in nature that region specifically is. I've always seen ti as the more Southern part of Maryland even being from Louisiana. Of course its not AS Southern as Louisiana but it has a Southern feel to it.

There is nothing Southern about Montgomery County that feels like New Jersey and New York. Baltimore I think is a mix. I found areas like Cockeysville, Towson, Lutherville etc to be more northern in mindset and feel compared to areas like Dundalk and Essex and Pasadena. Western Maryland is "country" but the northern kind of country.

Some people like to assocaite rural with the South and urban with the North which is VERY inaccurate. The "North" also means the Pennsylvania coal country, upstate New York and small fishing towns in Maine while the South also includes very large cities and suburbs as well as big banking and manufacturing businesses. In all parts of the US the majority of people do live in the suburbs.

[gwillyfromphilly]

Originally Posted by Tom Lennox 70

I'm wondering if some people here can give y'alls perspective on the Eastern Shore and how Southern in nature that region specifically is. I've always seen ti as the more Southern part of Maryland even being from Louisiana. Of course its not AS Southern as Louisiana but it has a Southern feel to it.

There is nothing Southern about Montgomery County that feels like New Jersey and New York. Baltimore I think is a mix. I found areas like Cockeysville, Towson, Lutherville etc to be more northern in mindset and feel compared to areas like Dundalk and Essex and Pasadena. Western Maryland is "country" but the northern kind of country.

Some people like to assocaite rural with the South and urban with the North which is VERY inaccurate. The "North" also means the Pennsylvania coal country, upstate New York and small fishing towns in Maine while the South also includes very large cities and suburbs as well as big banking and manufacturing businesses. In all parts of the US the majority of people do live in the suburbs.

Some will say the Eastern shore is southern but I believe it is solidly Mid-Atlantic.