Maryland a southern state (Baltimore, Dundalk: development, concrete, historical)

[DMV]

Originally Posted by westsideboy

DMV, do the rural black populations in the South today still sound similar to the local white dialects (meaning a North Carolina white and and a North Carolina black would still both be noticably from NC), or has the standard spread into the old rural south too?

Well for the most part yes, but the younger generations can sometimes sound a little different at times, due to the whole Ebonics thing. The thing is, the older people in the South both black and white tend to all sound alike since the older blacks are less likely to use Ebonics or slang terms. On the other hand, the younger and more Urban population in the South tend to use Ebonics and slang terms as there chosen dialects or way to communicate on a daily basis, so certain words they use may sound a little different because of the Ebonics Lingo. Now overall, regardless of the Ebonics or any other chosen dialects that the younger population decides to speak, there accents are still undeniably Southern. Even when a lot of them try to speak English in the standard form you would notice that they have what some people may refer to as a Lisp that's usually know to come with a Southern Accent, which makes it easy for most people to distinguish when conversing with a Southerner.


So to give you a more clean Cut answer for your question for "Do the rural black populations in the South today still sound similar to the local white dialects"? Overall Yes. It's just that sometimes the younger generation like to create new way's of saying certain words, but it's still Southern to the core nonetheless. Hope this helps.

[westsideboy]

Originally Posted by DMV

Well for the most part yes, but the younger generations can sometimes sound a little different at times, due to the whole Ebonics thing. The thing is, the older people in the South both black and white tend to all sound alike since the older blacks are less likely to use Ebonics or slang terms. On the other hand, the younger and more Urban population in the South tend to use Ebonics and slang terms as there chosen dialects or way to communicate on a daily basis, so certain words they use may sound a little different because of the Ebonics Lingo. Now overall, regardless of the Ebonics or any other chosen dialects that the younger population decides to speak, there accents are still undeniably Southern. Even when a lot of them try to speak English in the standard form you would notice that they have what some people may refer to as a Lisp that's usually know to come with a Southern Accent, which makes it easy for most people to distinguish when conversing with a Southerner.


So to give you a more clean Cut answer for your question for "Do the rural black populations in the South today still sound similar to the local white dialects"? Overall Yes. It's just that sometimes the younger generation like to create new way's of saying certain words, but it's still Southern to the core nonetheless. Hope this helps.

Very interesting info. I know that for me personally the piedmont NC accent (be it white or black) is nearly unintelligable. Every vowel is different, they talk fast, and tend to drop alot of consinants at the end of words.

[AuburnAL]

Originally Posted by Njrover0216

Regardless...it was not a "war." Of course you have a BA in History... it can not be somewhat a war but not really a war. It is what it is. Again a yankee is the only person who can claim to have never lost a WAR.

Just going to point out that by your reasoning the Civil War wasn't a war either.

[brother's keeper]

Originally Posted by DMV

Well for the most part yes, but the younger generations can sometimes sound a little different at times, due to the whole Ebonics thing. The thing is, the older people in the South both black and white tend to all sound alike since the older blacks are less likely to use Ebonics or slang terms. On the other hand, the younger and more Urban population in the South tend to use Ebonics and slang terms as there chosen dialects or way to communicate on a daily basis, so certain words they use may sound a little different because of the Ebonics Lingo. Now overall, regardless of the Ebonics or any other chosen dialects that the younger population decides to speak, there accents are still undeniably Southern. Even when a lot of them try to speak English in the standard form you would notice that they have what some people may refer to as a Lisp that's usually know to come with a Southern Accent, which makes it easy for most people to distinguish when conversing with a Southerner.


So to give you a more clean Cut answer for your question for "Do the rural black populations in the South today still sound similar to the local white dialects"? Overall Yes. It's just that sometimes the younger generation like to create new way's of saying certain words, but it's still Southern to the core nonetheless. Hope this helps.

I couldn't disagree more....Most African Americans(including those in the South) have dailects and voices which sound nothing like whites(Southern or otherwise)...Also old school blacks have thier own ebonic phrases which older whites don't use...Though somewhat simlar their is an distinguish difference between a Southern black accent and a white one.

[GoPhils]

Haven't read some of these more recent posts about accents and all that, but just wanted to point out that there are currently topics on the first page of the Virginia and Richmond forums asking whether the state of Virginia and city of Richmond should be considered southern. I couldn't believe that people are actually questioning that Richmond is southern, and some are even claiming that geographically Virginia is in the Northeast. If people really think Richmond isn't southern than they for sure must not think Baltimore is either. I'm not saying I necessarily believe them but it just goes to show the different viewpoints that people from different areas have.

[MDguy99]

Originally Posted by GoPhils

asking whether the state of Virginia and city of Richmond should be considered southern.

Yeah. That's ridiculous. I wouldn't even consider Richmond Mid-Atlantic.
Are they also saying southwestern Virginia is in the Northeast? If so, this forum is full of nothing but idiots.

[Spade]

Yeah I would also find that ridiculous. Richmond and most of Virginia is Southern. Though Upper Southern and not the Deep South. But Southern nonetheless.

[StormlakeSoutheastDC]

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[Steelers10]

If it matters to anyone, as of the 2010 Census, the U.S. Census Bureau considers Maryland as part of its "South" region (see "Apportionment Data" diagram").

[KeyserSoze]

Didn't want to bring this up again, but I will say this -- anything that Virginia is included in, Maryland should be too. Of all states to realistically compare Maryland to(no disrespect to Pennsylvania and West Virginia), they share the most commonalities.