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Old 01-23-2012, 11:28 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth, TX
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I wonder what it would take to get a recall going...
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Old 01-24-2012, 01:58 AM
 
Location: Montgomery County, MD
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PhenomonalAJ doesn't like Schaefer but I'd take him over O'Malley every day of the week. I have to go to events where O'Malley attends and I have to leave the room when he speaks. And why in God"s name do want an even more liberal Governor? Aren't you paying enough already?
O'Malley is a crony limousine liberal like Obama, he's not in any way a progressive liberal who looks out for the working class. I'd prefer someone who would take on the legislature and use the bully pulpit to reform rather than be a go along-get along guy.

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RED FLAG!!!!!!!!

Anyone with an Once of Common Sense of Sanity would not give that Red Fox a Chance to be Maryland State Governor unless they Really HATE the State of Maryland..........
What are you talking about, I figure a conservative would prefer Franchot as he's opposed tax hikes and lifting the Maryland debt ceiling. I'd imagine you wouldn't want anyone to the left of Jesse Helms but this is Maryland. So far I think he's exactly what the state needs although I'm guessing we will end up with Gansler.
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Old 01-24-2012, 03:15 AM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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I wonder what it would take to get a recall going...

A change in the Maryland Constitution. MD has no provision for a recall of elected officials.
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Old 01-24-2012, 03:21 AM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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O'Malley is a crony limousine liberal like Obama, he's not in any way a progressive liberal who looks out for the working class. I'd prefer someone who would take on the legislature and use the bully pulpit to reform rather than be a go along-get along guy
What kind of reform do you mean. The MD Legislature jumps on just about any bandwagon there is to raise taxes and implement progressive/liberal ideas that comes along.

In-state tuition for illegals? Great idea.

Restrictive firearms laws? Why not (although those die in committee recently)?

Ultra-restrictive development regulations statewide that take no account for local realities? Let's lead the nation.

Meaningless school reform? We're Number 1!!!!!

Most unaffordable state college and university system in the US? We're there, too.


My money is on Anthony Brown for Governor in 2014. Gansler and Franchot will split the liberal Democrat vote and Brown will get in by carrying PG and Baltimore City by large margins. Yes, I'm calling a racial voting pattern.
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Old 01-24-2012, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, MD
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What kind of reform do you mean. The MD Legislature jumps on just about any bandwagon there is to raise taxes and implement progressive/liberal ideas that comes along.

In-state tuition for illegals? Great idea.

Restrictive firearms laws? Why not (although those die in committee recently)?

Ultra-restrictive development regulations statewide that take no account for local realities? Let's lead the nation.

Meaningless school reform? We're Number 1!!!!!

Most unaffordable state college and university system in the US? We're there, too.


My money is on Anthony Brown for Governor in 2014. Gansler and Franchot will split the liberal Democrat vote and Brown will get in by carrying PG and Baltimore City by large margins. Yes, I'm calling a racial voting pattern.
And you give no evidence why more qualified in state illegals should get into our colleges rather than dumber Americans. Aren't conservatives supposed to support a meritocracy? I do agree with you on a lot of the garbage like high tuition that O'Malley and his homeys in the legislature let go. Just because Mike Miller (head of MD senate) and Michael Busch (head of House of Delegates) are crooks doesn't mean we should hand our state over to Republican nutters. We could have our governor pardoning murderers like that great GOP governor Haley Barbour but religious demagoguery is not the way for normal people. Fact is, Republicans won't offer a moderate governor for 2014, a good pragmatist who can turn this state around. It will be some tea party nutter who will lose in a landslide.

Democrats always bend over backwards to accomodate their electorate like conservative Dem governors like Phil Bredesen of Tennessee or Brian Schweitzer of Montana. Republicans won't give an inch even in liberal electorates and that stubborness creates the political environment u condemn.

Maybe Anthony Brown will end up ahead but alls I know is Republicans go out of their way to alienate the people of Maryland. You can't bully people in getting what you want all the time, people make up their minds for themselves at some point.
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Old 01-24-2012, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth, TX
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A change in the Maryland Constitution. MD has no provision for a recall of elected officials.
Ah, how convenient.
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Old 01-24-2012, 03:54 PM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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This response references Post 85 from PhenomonalAJ.


What is it that you, and your ilk, don't understand about illegal?

On to other things. Your postings have shown time after time that anyone who doesn't hew exactly to your progressive/Socialist view of government is a, in your phrasing, "a right wing nutter". Which would include O'Malley. I find that phrasing offensive by the way and if I applied a similar appellation to you would get reported to the Mods.

You've accused Ehrlich of being a right wing, Tea Party member when by any objective standard he governed firmly from the middle. He compromised constantly as Governor. You want to see a "no compromise" Governor look to O'Malley and before him Glendening. But it's something I, as an elected official always forget, only Republicans compromise or even look at other views, Democrats as a whole in my experience always adopt the "my way or the highway" model, even in elected bodies where they are in the minority.

The Tea Party has very little influence in MD Republican circles and your continued harping on it shows very little understanding of current realities in MD. In fact I had to tell you who the only Tea Party Legislator in Annapolis is (Dwyer if you remember) and he's a nut case anyway. He does win elections, though.
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Old 01-24-2012, 04:05 PM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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Ah, how convenient.
Ok. But not new. I don't think the MD Constitution has ever had a recall provision.


In reality very few states have recall and that, in my opinion, is a good thing. It can be abused by a very vocal minority and would result in government by opinion polls and not by what's right (keep in mind I'm talking government from the County level down).

What many people outside elective office don't understand is that what's the right thing to do isn't always the popular thing. If officials have to base their votes on fearing recall things would never get done, and whether people want to admit it or not, most (the vast majority) of elected officials are serious, committed (sometimes I think we should be committed for being in office with the abuse we take) individuals who want to do the right thing and most times do so.
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Old 01-24-2012, 06:26 PM
 
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Ok. But not new. I don't think the MD Constitution has ever had a recall provision.


In reality very few states have recall and that, in my opinion, is a good thing. It can be abused by a very vocal minority and would result in government by opinion polls and not by what's right (keep in mind I'm talking government from the County level down).

What many people outside elective office don't understand is that what's the right thing to do isn't always the popular thing. If officials have to base their votes on fearing recall things would never get done, and whether people want to admit it or not, most (the vast majority) of elected officials are serious, committed (sometimes I think we should be committed for being in office with the abuse we take) individuals who want to do the right thing and most times do so.
Which is why Congress, at any time since 2003, could have ended the "Wars" in Iraq and Afghanistan by simply denying the 60-day renewal of the authorization of the President's (Bush and Obama's) ability to deploy troops as commander-in-chief. No Congress since WWII has (and never will) work in unison to pass a formal declaration of war or any legislation with gravitas because Congress is spineless to stand up to their constitutencies. It is much easier to shirk their responsibilities (Senators are supposed to be more powerful than Presidents which is why they are elected to six year terms while the President only four) and allow the President to act unilaterally and then complain that the President is acting without cooperating with a do nothing Congress. Or the ultimate fall back: let the Supreme Court rule on the issue if it can work its way up that far up the judiciary branch.
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Old 01-25-2012, 07:37 PM
 
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RED FLAG!!!!!!!!

Anyone with an Once of Common Sense of Sanity would not give that Red Fox a Chance to be Maryland State Governor unless they Really HATE the State of Maryland..........
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What are you talking about, I figure a conservative would prefer Franchot as he's opposed tax hikes and lifting the Maryland debt ceiling. I'd imagine you wouldn't want anyone to the left of Jesse Helms but this is Maryland. So far I think he's exactly what the state needs although I'm guessing we will end up with Gansler.
I view Fran**** the same way as I view Parris Glendenning and speaking of that Devil Gledenning he spoke some of the same tricking BS that Faran**** is speaking. Glendenning fooled the people with his fake support for the ICC but to show hs anti-Progressive true colors when he got selected to ruin the state.

I am sorry dude I just don't some blue eyed lefty guy posing as a politician that hails from from the Socialist/Communist region of Takoma Park let alone Montgomery County.........
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