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Old 08-02-2012, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Cumberland
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Conservative Dem - Delegate Kevin Kelly (Allegany)

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Old 08-02-2012, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth, TX
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I disagree. My wife is a conservative democrat and so is her dad.
Why do they bother keeping themselves tied to a political party that, for the most part, is not conservative?

****, why does anybody keep him/herself tied to a political party? I'd be neither a Dem nor a Republican because neither party fully aligns with my beliefs.
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Old 08-02-2012, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Cumberland
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Why do they bother keeping themselves tied to a political party that, for the most part, is not conservative?

****, why does anybody keep him/herself tied to a political party? I'd be neither a Dem nor a Republican because neither party fully aligns with my beliefs.
To vote in primary elections. On a local level, primary elections are extremelly important in determining who eventually fills elected offices. In small communities, primary elections are often decided by a less than a hundred, sometimes just a few dozen votes.

Also, your vote "matters" more in the primary than in the general as there are less people voting, so the each vote carries more weight, and voting in primaries helps shape the politics of the party. They have to please their base to win, and will change to get enough votes to do so.

Moderates not voting in primaries leads to more polarized candidates winning and advancing to the general. Then you hear the complaints about the lack of politicians with moderate views. Well, the moderate candidates didn't make it to the general because moderate voters tend to skip out on primaries.
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Old 08-02-2012, 11:46 AM
 
Location: The Triad
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To vote in primary elections.
...primary elections are extremelly important in determining who eventually fills elected offices...
And who doesn't.
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Old 08-02-2012, 12:32 PM
 
Location: PROUD Son of the South in Maryland
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Why do they bother keeping themselves tied to a political party that, for the most part, is not conservative?

****, why does anybody keep him/herself tied to a political party? I'd be neither a Dem nor a Republican because neither party fully aligns with my beliefs.
Like westside said to vote in the primaries. They still also vote democratic mostly but have been know to sway (e.g. 2008 presidential and Erhlich). Im a registered republican but I mostly vote independent.

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And who doesn't.
People who arent registered to either the republican or democratic party. Its an effort to keep these parties in power over new upcoming parties.
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Old 08-02-2012, 12:45 PM
 
Location: The Triad
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People who arent registered to either the republican or democratic party.
whooosh!

Primary elections are extremely important in determining who eventually fills elected offices (and who doesn't). The "who doesn't" contingent being mostly those who don't even bother to run knowing the futility (and growing expense) of attempting to pass muster with the base.

hth
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Old 08-02-2012, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Salisbury, MD
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To vote in primary elections. On a local level, primary elections are extremelly important in determining who eventually fills elected offices. In small communities, primary elections are often decided by a less than a hundred, sometimes just a few dozen votes.

Also, your vote "matters" more in the primary than in the general as there are less people voting, so the each vote carries more weight, and voting in primaries helps shape the politics of the party. They have to please their base to win, and will change to get enough votes to do so.

Moderates not voting in primaries leads to more polarized candidates winning and advancing to the general. Then you hear the complaints about the lack of politicians with moderate views. Well, the moderate candidates didn't make it to the general because moderate voters tend to skip out on primaries.
This is exactly why Delaware selected Christine O'Donnell over Mike Castle in 2010. Out of the 57,000 people who showed up to vote, most were Conservative Republicans.

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Old 08-02-2012, 05:31 PM
 
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Would either of you name a Republican office holder at the state level (don't say Don Dwyer) who is a hard right winger.
Nancy Jacobs
Jay Jacobs
McDonough
Pipkin
McDermott
George
McMillan
Smigiel
Afzali
Impallaria
McConkey
Parrott


and Dwyer

Not saying any of them are fit to be Governor, though I think Pipkin is probably closest.
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Old 08-02-2012, 05:58 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Nancy Jacobs not really
Jay Jacobs
McDonough
Pipkin nope
McDermott
George sometimes
McMillan nope
Smigiel
Afzali
Impallaria
McConkey nope
Parrott nope


and Dwyer he's just plain nuts

Not saying any of them are fit to be Governor, though I think Pipkin is probably closest.

Entered my opinions.
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Old 08-02-2012, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth, TX
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MD ought to have open primaries.

'sides, if I ran for office here I'd be an indie all the way. This state would look good in yellow
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