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Old 10-07-2012, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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What are your thoughts in terms of similarities and differences between both jurisdictions which are more or less similar in size and setting.

Nothing serious, just thought it would make for an interesting conversation piece.

PG - 871,000 498 sq. miles
Balt Co. - 805,000 682 sq. miles
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Old 10-07-2012, 02:29 PM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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Baltimore County overall has a much better school system. I have to go up there every year for site visits at various high schools and I can tell you the central office has its **** together for what I'm there for. As an employee of PGCPS I can also tell you PG doesn't have it together for the same thing. In fact people tasked to do things either don't understand what needs to be done or run away from doing it. The dysfunction at Sasscer threatens the accreditation of County high schools.
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Old 10-10-2012, 09:27 PM
 
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P.G. County, for one thing, doesn't have anything remotely similar to this enormous, 4-story high mall http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Towson_Town_Center
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Old 10-10-2012, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Fort Washington, MD
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slowlane3: Well here's to hoping.

I would make note of NH or its Tangier Outlet development but I'd just be kidding myself.
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Old 10-11-2012, 12:10 AM
 
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PG County: nearly all jobs located actually in the County are either Federal government (which has pretty much stayed the same for the past 60 years with little growth in all that time), local government, education and community services, distribution centers, or retail/ small business. Relatively little manufacturing, or national corporations - exceptions I can think of, would be the Beretta gun factory in Accokeek, Duron housepaint factory in Beltsville.

Baltimore County: northern part of County has corporate headquarters of Black and Decker Tools, McCormick Spices, and other corporations in the Hunt Valley corporate area. The nation's largest steel mill used to be in Sparrows Point (now it's just a skeleton force there). Most prominent Federal facility would be Medicare/Medicaid headquarters in Woodlawn. No military bases.

PG County: has the state's largest university, and one community college campus (with extensions at Andrews Base and a couple other places), also Bowie State Univ. Has metrorail lines projecting out in FOUR separate places. No shopping malls at all comparable to Balt county's huge, 4-story Towson town center.

Baltimore County; has the state's 2nd largest public university (towson), and three community college campuses (catonsville, essex, dundalk). Has one metrorail line (to owings mills), and one light-rail line (going north to hunt valley).

I suppose the national Medicare/Medicaid (HCFA) headquarters in Woodlawn, Baltimore County, in its workforce size, could be compared to the Suitland Federal Center in PG County.

Both counties have Beltways (495 and 695), as well as freeways (95, 83, and 295) leading into the core city of their respective metro areas.

PG County: At this time, a majority black population in most areas, with substantial Hispanics in some parts.

Baltimore County: population has always been overwhelmingly white, except for Randallstown in recent years has become 70% black, and the tiny community of Turners Station near Dundalk (mentioned in best-selling book "The immortal life of Henrietta Lacks"). The northern and northwestern County suburbs with their private schools, physicians, major Jewish presence, and sophistication, are more comparable to Montgomery County than to PGC.

Native-grown politicians of national stature: PG County: Steny Hoyer (Democratic Whip of US House)
Baltimore County: the discredited Spiro Agnew (Republican, US Vice President)

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Old 10-11-2012, 07:29 AM
 
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PG County: nearly all jobs located actually in the County are either Federal government (which has pretty much stayed the same for the past 60 years with little growth in all that time), local government, education and community services, distribution centers, or retail/ small business. Relatively little manufacturing, or national corporations - exceptions I can think of, would be the Beretta gun factory in Accokeek, Duron housepaint factory in Beltsville.

Baltimore County: northern part of County has corporate headquarters of Black and Decker Tools, McCormick Spices, and other corporations in the Hunt Valley corporate area. The nation's largest steel mill used to be in Sparrows Point (now it's just a skeleton force there). Most prominent Federal facility would be Medicare/Medicaid headquarters in Woodlawn. No military bases.

PG County: has the state's largest university, and one community college campus (with extensions at Andrews Base and a couple other places), also Bowie State Univ. Has metrorail lines projecting out in FOUR separate places. No shopping malls at all comparable to Balt county's huge, 4-story Towson town center.

Baltimore County; has the state's 2nd largest public university (towson), and three community college campuses (catonsville, essex, dundalk). Has one metrorail line (to owings mills), and one light-rail line (going north to hunt valley).

I suppose the national Medicare/Medicaid (HCFA) headquarters in Woodlawn, Baltimore County, in its workforce size, could be compared to the Suitland Federal Center in PG County.

Both counties have Beltways (495 and 695), as well as freeways (95, 83, and 295) leading into the core city of their respective metro areas.

PG County: At this time, a majority black population in most areas, with substantial Hispanics in some parts.

Baltimore County: population has always been overwhelmingly white, except for Randallstown in recent years has become 70% black, and the tiny community of Turners Station near Dundalk (mentioned in best-selling book "The immortal life of Henrietta Lacks"). The northern and northwestern County suburbs with their private schools, physicians, major Jewish presence, and sophistication, are more comparable to Montgomery County than to PGC.

Native-grown politicians of national stature: PG County: Steny Hoyer (Democratic Whip of US House)
Baltimore County: the discredited Spiro Agnew (Republican, US Vice President)
Don't forget about UMBC. Other than that, a good contrast of both
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Old 10-11-2012, 07:32 AM
 
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slowlane3: Well here's to hoping.

I would make note of NH or its Tangier Outlet development but I'd just be kidding myself.
Two very different developments. To start, Tanger Outlet hasn't even been built so it's hard to draw a comparison now. Second, National Harbor isn't really a shopping mall like Towson Mall is. It's more of a destination than just a shopping area. It's really not an apples to apples comparison between the two.
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Old 10-11-2012, 09:10 AM
 
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Don't forget about UMBC. Other than that, a good contrast of both
Yes, of course -- and UMBC is getting a very good reputation lately.

I also forgot to mention that the HUGE, Martin aircraft factory near Essex, during the World War 2 years, employed many thousands. PG County has had sand and gravel mining in Silver Hill and in South Laurel, but I suppose that's very minor.

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Old 10-11-2012, 09:53 AM
 
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PCG's major farm crop historically, was tobacco (before the state buyout program of the 1990s). In Balto County I believe it was/ is corn and dairying.
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Old 10-17-2012, 10:44 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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There is NOTHING similar between these two except that "urban renewal" in nearby cities has pushed crime to both places. A LOT more with PGC. Most of Baltimore County is very nice and suburban with many rural parts too.

I think a more apt comparison is PG County and Baltimore City.
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