04-28-2013, 08:19 PM
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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I'm not opposed to low taxes and less services if those services arent entirely necessary. For example we do NOT need the Red Line and do not need to send illegal aliens to school.
04-29-2013, 07:33 AM
Location: Hiding from Antifa!
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Originally Posted by
molukai
This WaPo article makes an irregular appearance on this board, but I felt it prudent that everyone reads it. When I lived in Alexandria VA, my taxes were substantially less than what I currently pay in PG MD, and this article simply affirms it with empirical data.
Who Pays More Taxes? Virginia, Maryland or D.C.? - Raw Fisher
That article is 5 years old. Since then I am sure Maryland has increased their taxes far more than the other jurisdictions.
04-29-2013, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by
Cruzincat
That article is 5 years old. Since then I am sure Maryland has increased their taxes far more than the other jurisdictions.
Are taxes really lower in Fairfax county or Arlington county or the independent cities in VA vs pg or Montgomery county?
I really couldn't imagine VA being cheaper until you get out of the DC sprawl (beyond fredericksburg and beyond haymarket)
04-29-2013, 11:05 AM
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lex2121
Are taxes really lower in Fairfax county or Arlington county or the independent cities in VA vs pg or Montgomery county?
Depending on the county you live in, you pay taxes based on what you own rather than what you earn like in MD. The car tax will be high at first but depending on the car it depreciates over time along with the value of the car
04-29-2013, 01:07 PM
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lex2121
Are taxes really lower in Fairfax county or Arlington county or the independent cities in VA vs pg or Montgomery county?
Yes they are infact cheaper, even with car tax. The Maryland propaganda machine has been on overdrive for years now, VA has lower taxes, Cost of Living is higher sure, but the TAXES are lower -- even with car tax.
04-29-2013, 01:12 PM
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Virginia's car tax was high when I moved here from Maryland to VA in 1988. Not anymore. The car tax has been reduced substantially sense then.
04-29-2013, 01:38 PM
Location: Mount Airy, Maryland
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And prime beef costs more per pound than the burgers sold by Murrays.
Did you have some actual or larger point?
er... 12th at 10.2% with the national mean at 9.9%. (
link )
Louisiana comes in 47th place with a 7.8% rate.
Wanna trade with them to save that 2.4%?
I have already provided a link showing Maryland as the 4th highest state in terms of taxes paid. That is my point and it obviously means a lot to most of us even if it doesn't seem to bother you. Here is another link from a different source that also shows Maryland with the same pathetic ranking.
Tax rates: Where does your state rank? - Apr. 14, 2009
As a lifelong resident I love the state of Maryland and I'm proud to call it home.. But I'm not ready to say that Maryland is prime beef and states like some near the bottom of the rankings such as New Mexico, Tennessee or Wyoming are Murray's Beef. That's a pretty elitest attitude from someone who calls himself Rational if you ask me.
04-29-2013, 01:52 PM
Location: The Triad
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DaveinMtAiry
I have already provided a link showing Maryland as the 4th highest state in terms of taxes paid.
And I showed another (actually independent source) link with different numbers.
I'll stick with my numbers.
Quote:
But I'm not ready to say that Maryland is prime beef...
OK. Feel free to furnish any analogy if you like.
04-29-2013, 03:25 PM
Location: Maryland's 6th District.
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Tom Lennox 70
I'm not opposed to low taxes and less services if those services arent entirely necessary. For example we do NOT need the Red Line and do not need to send illegal aliens to school.
Well,
you don't need the Red Line and the State wants the tax[es] and jobs that will come from the Dream Act. Most people, even those "tax lovin' Liberals (
)" are not opposed to lower taxes if it meant the removal of services that are not necessary. That is a no brainer. However, get two people together and they will argue over which is necessary and which is not until they are old an grey.
04-29-2013, 03:29 PM
Location: Mount Airy, Maryland
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Originally Posted by
MrRational
And I showed another (actually independent source) link with different numbers.
You use the link that fits your argument and dismiss the 2 that I post. Come on now. How many more do I need to provide anyway?
Here's one from MSN got us 5th
http://money.msn.com/taxes/5-highest...ates-for-taxes
Another that has MD 5th.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/pf_article_113611.html
As for the 2nd part I'm just not ready to proclaim Maryland as so much better than New Mexico etc that it's like prime beef vs. Murray's burger. I'm not making another analogy becuse it's a silly argument. Who is to say which state is better? Certainly not you.
And I am not ready to claim that I'm fine with paying a much higher tax rate than the residents in those states just for the privelege of staying in my home state.
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House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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)" are not opposed to lower taxes if it meant the removal of services that are not necessary. That is a no brainer. However, get two people together and they will argue over which is necessary and which is not until they are old an grey.
