Was Maryland Ever a Southern State? (2014, plantations, estates)

[BajanYankee]

**The question is not whether Maryland is currently a southern state**

The question is whether Maryland was historically a southern state.

[MrRational]

Were the other 4000 posts and 20 threads on this topic really not enough for you?

[BajanYankee]

Originally Posted by MrRational

Were the other 4000 posts and 20 threads on this topic really not enough for you?

I searched the forum and found no such topic. There's a difference between is and was after all. I'm asking about the historical regional identity of the state, not its current one.

[North Beach Person]

I don't know, what do you think?

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[phlinak]

Originally Posted by BajanYankee

**The question is not whether Maryland is currently a southern state**

The question is whether Maryland was historically a southern state.

The Mason-Dixon Line, which separates the Northern states from the Southern states, was drawn between Pennsylvania (the southernmost Northern state) and Maryland (the northernmost Southern state) and establishes the boundary between these two states.

I think this should answer your question.

[MrRational]

Originally Posted by phlinak

The Mason-Dixon Line, which separates the Northern states from the Southern states, was drawn between Pennsylvania (the southernmost Northern state) and Maryland (the northernmost Southern state) and establishes the boundary between these two states.

I think this should answer your question.

It should but that doesn't leave the door open for continued debate

[MidValleyDad]

Originally Posted by phlinak

The Mason-Dixon Line, which separates the Northern states from the Southern states, was drawn between Pennsylvania (the southernmost Northern state) and Maryland (the northernmost Southern state) and establishes the boundary between these two states.

I think this should answer your question.

All the Mason-Dixon line is is a boundary between states. It has no official standing as a divider of 'North' and 'South'. That said Maryland was considered a Southern state by many. Like Virginia and North Carolina the eastern areas (generally the Tidewater) was compsed of larger plantations and estates. The more mountainous areas in the western part of the states were composed of smaller farms with a small slave population.

[BajanYankee]

Originally Posted by MidValleyDad

All the Mason-Dixon line is is a boundary between states. It has no official standing as a divider of 'North' and 'South'. That said Maryland was considered a Southern state by many. Like Virginia and North Carolina the eastern areas (generally the Tidewater) was compsed of larger plantations and estates. The more mountainous areas in the western part of the states were composed of smaller farms with a small slave population.

So here's the thing...

Maryland joined the Southern Council of Governments and the Southern Governors Association. It was also a Jim Crow State. That said, why does any of that mean that Maryland was necessarily southern. How do you prove it was a southern state?

[westsideboy]

Originally Posted by BajanYankee

So here's the thing...

Maryland joined the Southern Council of Governments and the Southern Governors Association. It was also a Jim Crow State. That said, why does any of that mean that Maryland was necessarily southern. How do you prove it was a southern state?

You find a set of identifiable and measureable traits like

- dialect
- settlement patterns
- government organization
- customs and folkways
- cuisine
- self identity
- climate
- geography


than apply those traits to multiple states and see how they naturally group together based on the identified criteria.......or don't.

[BajanYankee]

Originally Posted by westsideboy

You find a set of identifiable and measureable traits like

- dialect
- settlement patterns
- government organization
- customs and folkways
- cuisine
- self identity
- climate
- geography


than apply those traits to multiple states and see how they naturally group together based on the identified criteria.......or don't.

But even then, I could say that the state had characteristics of north and south, and was never either. What evidence is there that Maryland was a part of the South?