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Old 09-06-2014, 05:35 PM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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You insisted he was not similar to a Tea Partier yet is lockstep with them on all issues. Sorry I upset you by pointing out your guy is a conservative. I didn't demand anyone have the same positions as me, just pointing out the truth rather than trying to obfuscate. He is undisputably a gun nut based on his record of opposition to gun control bills. That doesn't play in MD, we're mostly normal people who don't have issues with our masculinity and need to compensate with big guns.


You don't know the square root of **** about guns or gun owners.

You didn't upset me by pointing out that Hogan is a conservative, that's evident.

I've opposed MD gun laws, does that make me a gun nut? Of course, to you it does, but the difference between you and I is that I actually know something about firearms. You don't.

Since you pointed out, unnecessarily, that Hogan is a conservative holding conservative positions I imagine you won't mind me pointing out the O'Malley/Brown record:

1) the destruction of the State Pension System by using it as a piggybank for the General Fund, endangering the pensions of thousands of retirees.
2) PlanMD, which is negatively impacting the rural Counties now but will soon come to an urban County near you. Prepare to pay more, lots more, in taxes and fees for stormwater management.
3) threatening the continued existence of NAS PAX by insisting a windmill farm be located directly in the main flight path used for testing. Don't forget the "windmill tax" on your electric bill to compensate the companies for building them.
4) raiding the Highway User Fund, drawing it down to such a low level that a gas tax was unavoidable.
5) Slot machine and casino bait and switch, promising Counties "new" money but it turning out to be "in place of" money.
6) kicking teacher pension costs back to the Counties. The State had been paying them for decades.
7) the revocation of Highway User Revenue funds and State Aid for Police to the Counties and municipalities while mandating more unfunded programs.

I could go on but I don't wish to overwhelm you.
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Old 09-06-2014, 07:25 PM
 
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You don't know the square root of **** about guns or gun owners.

You didn't upset me by pointing out that Hogan is a conservative, that's evident.

I've opposed MD gun laws, does that make me a gun nut? Of course, to you it does, but the difference between you and I is that I actually know something about firearms. You don't.

Since you pointed out, unnecessarily, that Hogan is a conservative holding conservative positions I imagine you won't mind me pointing out the O'Malley/Brown record:

1) the destruction of the State Pension System by using it as a piggybank for the General Fund, endangering the pensions of thousands of retirees.
2) PlanMD, which is negatively impacting the rural Counties now but will soon come to an urban County near you. Prepare to pay more, lots more, in taxes and fees for stormwater management.
3) threatening the continued existence of NAS PAX by insisting a windmill farm be located directly in the main flight path used for testing. Don't forget the "windmill tax" on your electric bill to compensate the companies for building them.
4) raiding the Highway User Fund, drawing it down to such a low level that a gas tax was unavoidable.
5) Slot machine and casino bait and switch, promising Counties "new" money but it turning out to be "in place of" money.
6) kicking teacher pension costs back to the Counties. The State had been paying them for decades.
7) the revocation of Highway User Revenue funds and State Aid for Police to the Counties and municipalities while mandating more unfunded programs.

I could go on but I don't wish to overwhelm you.
I don't have a great expertise on guns, I'm not scared of my own shadow to the point of needing to be armed to the teeth. I actually feel some sort of remorse when kids and people are getting gunned down by mentally ill lunatics with unrestricted access to guns.

Why ignore what Hogan plans to do to MD? You really think getting rid of pre-K programs and killing the Metro Purple Line are good ideas? He's a typical Teabagger looking to cut programs that help the poor. Killing the Purple Line alone would pretty much keep the DC area in gridlock and I'm shocked a statewide candidate would be tonedeaf enough to alienate voters of all parties in that way. He couldn't give less of a damn about urban Marylanders. Status quo is better than what that loon hopes to accomplish. Maybe you and he should pack it up to Mississippi where you'd both be much happier.
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Old 09-06-2014, 07:49 PM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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I don't have a great expertise on guns, I'm not scared of my own shadow to the point of needing to be armed to the teeth. I actually feel some sort of remorse when kids and people are getting gunned down by mentally ill lunatics with unrestricted access to guns.

Why ignore what Hogan plans to do to MD? You really think getting rid of pre-K programs and killing the Metro Purple Line are good ideas? He's a typical Teabagger looking to cut programs that help the poor. Killing the Purple Line alone would pretty much keep the DC area in gridlock and I'm shocked a statewide candidate would be tonedeaf enough to alienate voters of all parties in that way. He couldn't give less of a damn about urban Marylanders. Status quo is better than what that loon hopes to accomplish. Maybe you and he should pack it up to Mississippi where you'd both be much happier.
The Purple Line won't do a damned thing for gridlock. All it will do is drive up the costs for areas around it.

Real quick, tell me how someone who has been determined to be mentally ill legally acquires a gun. You may not know much about guns but you seem to be an expert on the laws on them.

Pre-K programs? We don't have them now, generally speaking. Another unfunded mandate. How much are you, an undoubtedly non-taxpayer, willing to increase my taxes?

No, I'll stay here for now. That way you'll have somebody paying taxes to support you.

Oh, hey. I noticed that you couldn't respond to anything I questioned you on. Well, except what you, self-admittedly, know nothing about.

Remember when I mentioned the Teabagger meme, you're proving it over and over.
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Old 09-06-2014, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Gardenville
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Last time I checked, pre-K programs do nothing but provide more Government assisted child care at an earlier age for either the guilt-driven working Mothers, or the "damn, now I can get free breakfast and lunch for junior before kiddygarden without using my stamps!" contingents.
(Big Brother is Good, Big Brother knows best, no need to think for yourself...)
No evidence whatsoever that those kids receiving pre-K "education" are any better prepared for school, or succeed to a greater degree than those who do not receive it.

I am so tired of the largely nonsensical "guns are a phallic symbol, and those who must own them must be over-compensating" canard. I am neither a Dem nor a Rep-for the most part I loathe both parties. I don't now, and have never owned a firearm. Following your argument, I must be built like John Holmes (which may be true, Ladies, PM me...).
To carry this argument to its extreme, KNIVES are much more phallic in shape, usage, and general descriptive terminology than guns, so will you now buy only pre-chopped lettuce?
I swear to God, I think McCarthy is laughing from his grave.
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Old 09-07-2014, 04:23 AM
 
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The Purple Line won't do a damned thing for gridlock. All it will do is drive up the costs for areas around it.

Real quick, tell me how someone who has been determined to be mentally ill legally acquires a gun. You may not know much about guns but you seem to be an expert on the laws on them.

Pre-K programs? We don't have them now, generally speaking. Another unfunded mandate. How much are you, an undoubtedly non-taxpayer, willing to increase my taxes?

No, I'll stay here for now. That way you'll have somebody paying taxes to support you.

Oh, hey. I noticed that you couldn't respond to anything I questioned you on. Well, except what you, self-admittedly, know nothing about.

Remember when I mentioned the Teabagger meme, you're proving it over and over.
You are proving my point that no conservatives have a single positive thing to say about Hogan, none have come up even this far in the thread, its basically "Brown's an evil tax and spend librul, vote him out" as if we'd be graced with magical honest Republican X who would get rid of all of MD's ills instead of a corrupt bigoted religious nut Teabagger completely unqualified for the job.

Maybe you live in sheep grazing country but the DC area does need a Purple Line. You don't seem to understand why the areas around stations increase in value. If no one used them, as you claim, why would people want to live near them? Maybe the Rush Limbaugh show is telling you that public transportation does nothing to ease traffic congestion but thats generally not so. Funny how you right wingers love mooching off me and my DC area brethren's tax base but angrily and ineffectually shoot down our demands like it matters.

I guess you were indisposed during the time period Adam Lanza gunned down elementary school children in Newtown, CT using semiautomatic weapons his mother legally acquired. And no statement of remorse for those dead children, just spewing your rhetoric that mentally ill people have no way of acquiring guns.

I guess you have to make up Marylanders not having pre-K programs as well, pretty much everyone I know with kids had their kids in pre-K in Montgomery and PG and I was in it 25 years ago. Not sure you have the best source of information.
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Old 09-07-2014, 04:25 AM
 
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Last time I checked, pre-K programs do nothing but provide more Government assisted child care at an earlier age for either the guilt-driven working Mothers, or the "damn, now I can get free breakfast and lunch for junior before kiddygarden without using my stamps!" contingents.
(Big Brother is Good, Big Brother knows best, no need to think for yourself...)
No evidence whatsoever that those kids receiving pre-K "education" are any better prepared for school, or succeed to a greater degree than those who do not receive it.

I am so tired of the largely nonsensical "guns are a phallic symbol, and those who must own them must be over-compensating" canard. I am neither a Dem nor a Rep-for the most part I loathe both parties. I don't now, and have never owned a firearm. Following your argument, I must be built like John Holmes (which may be true, Ladies, PM me...).
To carry this argument to its extreme, KNIVES are much more phallic in shape, usage, and general descriptive terminology than guns, so will you now buy only pre-chopped lettuce?
I swear to God, I think McCarthy is laughing from his grave.
Looks like Free Republic and Stormfront have sent out the action alerts to get all T-P's at alert on this thread! Pre-K isn't about education, its about childcare for working mothers. I haven't spent the time staring at knives imagining their resemblance to a phallus as long as you have so I shall take your word for it.
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Old 09-07-2014, 05:24 AM
 
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Every defense I find about gun control sounds more and more like the defense of alcohol prohibition.

CoolZombie must be one of those yuppie liberals who are only pretending to care about the poor except if it comes near him.
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Old 09-07-2014, 05:28 AM
 
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I wonder if yuppie liberals find this to be positive:

Report: gap persists between rich and poor schools in Montgomery Co., Md. - WTOP Mobile
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Old 09-08-2014, 07:04 AM
 
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How about breaking the public employee unions for starters?

You're one of those conservatives who hates "big-government" and unions and views both of them as indicative of all that is wrong with America, aren't you?
Which "public unions" in MD do you feel are in danger by a "Scott Walker?"

Seems you're just pulling nothingness out of the air and flinging it at the wall. You don't even know why you don't like Scott Walker. He's just a good punching bag for low-information liberals. Do you disagree?
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Old 09-08-2014, 09:09 AM
 
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Why ignore what Hogan plans to do to MD? You really think getting rid of pre-K programs and killing the Metro Purple Line are good ideas? He's a typical Teabagger looking to cut programs that help the poor. Killing the Purple Line alone would pretty much keep the DC area in gridlock and I'm shocked a statewide candidate would be tonedeaf enough to alienate voters of all parties in that way. He couldn't give less of a damn about urban Marylanders. Status quo is better than what that loon hopes to accomplish. Maybe you and he should pack it up to Mississippi where you'd both be much happier.
I was born and raised in Mississippi, so this kinda puts a fine point on things for me.

Like I said in my earlier post, I don't blindly follow any party. But if choosing between two extremes, a "tax & spend" candidate would be better for me than the alternative, which CoolZombie nicely summed up (hope that answers your question, AeroGuyDC).

Gridlock, whether related to infrastructure or day-to-day politics, is something I simply cannot support. And if we would all allow ourselves a moment of intellectual honesty, we would likely agree that one political party is more engaged in creating it than the other.
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