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Old 05-21-2007, 07:56 AM
 
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I keep seeing people mention BARC and it sounds like it's a bad thing...what is it??
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Old 05-21-2007, 09:45 AM
 
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It's the BRAC Base Realignment. They closed down Ft. Monmounth in NJ and they are sending the military folk mostly to Aberdeen Proving Ground, Ft. Meade, etc. Harford County is supposed to get the bulk of the people (which is good and bad) about 5,000 I think? All in all about 8,000 people are being transferred from Ft. Monmouth. My numbers may be off, I haven't kept up with it since last year.
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Old 05-21-2007, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Stuck on the East Coast, hoping to head West
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I'm in Anne Arundel County, home to Ft Meade and NSA and the word is that most of the impact will be felt in AA county. Here's the latest story from the Baltimore Sun (pretty much the same that the area newspapers are reporting here). It looks like the major impact will be about 2010-2011.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/politics/bal-ht.ar.government13may13,0,855775.story?coll=bal-mdpolitics-headlines (broken link)

I know there are already road expansions for Rt 175 and Rt 3 (major artery) is supposed to be completely re-done. Not sure of the impact. Not sure if I'm sticking around to find out.

Edited to add that the number of total jobs now being reported is close to 20,000 within the 3 mile radius of Ft Meade
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Old 05-21-2007, 11:05 AM
 
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Thanks for the update bande1102. They didn't even mention Harford County. In any event, i'm like you. Won't be around for that congestion and overdevelopment...
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Old 05-21-2007, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Stuck on the East Coast, hoping to head West
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Hey RoadTripGurl,

Even though I've not seen Harford written anywhere, I have heard rumblings about it. Rumor around AA county is that there is going to be a severe housing shortage and surrounding counties are going to be hit, too.

I also read somewhere that Baltimore City, as part of its revitalization, was going to try to improve transportation out to this area so that it could offer housing, too. I wonder how long the commute is going to be for these workers. I just can't imagine the road expansions they're talking about.

The other issue brought up around here is that the jobs that will be created for civilians is supposed to come from an existing job pool. Problem is, they say, that job pool won't exist. They say that there aren't enough specialized, highly educated workers to fill the openings based on projected college grads, etc.

I'm with you, though, RTG, I'm heading outta here, I don't even want to wait and find out how this is going to affect my little neighborhood
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Old 05-21-2007, 12:59 PM
 
Location: UK
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Hey, I'll stick around long enough to have 'em fighting for my property
(cha-ching!) They are mad building in HarCo, new townhouse developments everywhere around the Edgewood APG gates... It's already starting to get crowded. The mass of people in the too close together homes will make it unbearable. I wonder who's bright idea it was to move that many people to another state. In order to break even, about 5K people would have to leave Maryland before they take up residence, and you know that's probably not going to happen.
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Old 05-21-2007, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Upper Marlboro, MD
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In PG we won't be affected as much, but BRAC can turn out to be a good thing because it has people talking about bringing in more defense contractors. I'm in the IT field so I'm virtually guaranteed a commute to Fairfax, Montgomery or even Howard (Columbia). Right now I commute from Upper Marlboro to Tysons Corner and believe me that is not pretty. Sometimes it takes me well over an hour.
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Old 05-21-2007, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Huntersville/Charlotte, NC and Washington, DC
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also affecting us in VA, hoffman building in alexandria is emptying out with DOD jobs going to kentucky and st louis.
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Old 05-21-2007, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Stuck on the East Coast, hoping to head West
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Default anybody heard about NSA and San Antonio

Has anybody heard about NSA transferring jobs out to San Antonio? I don't know the specifics, but I've heard NSA is planning to do that. Interestingly, Force 3 is in Crofton and just so happens to have office in San Antonio. Wondering if maybe they'll be shifting more people to San Antonio area. Not that anyone really knows, but here's some info here

http://www.mysanantonio.com/business/stories/MYSA041905.01A.nsa.1ef9af858.html (broken link)

So what if the counties do all of these road expansions, etc and the government simply shifts people? What I mean is what if 20,000 jobs are coming here, but 15,000 leave? Wow. But what do I know?
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Old 05-22-2007, 08:29 AM
 
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Wow, it said San Antonio has one of the largest intelligence bases outside of DC! Thanks again bande1102! I think I may seriously contemplate a move to San Antonio, TX (for real). Intel is my field. DC area usually hogs the intel and federal LE jobs. Good to know I can finally go elsewhere with promise!!!!
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