01-26-2011, 09:03 AM
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My husband's company is talking to him about transferring to Framingham. I'm not sure exactly where but I'm assuming close to the TJ Maxx headquarters.
We have two small children (one elementary level, and one is a year away from preschool) and are looking for excellent public schools but our housing budget would probably only be around 5 - 600K. I've seen recommendations for Hopkinton which I'm very interested in and I believe Southborough and Sherborn would be a stretch financially but because of the schools am interested.
I am worrying about the commute for my husband. He's able to legally drive but has an eye condition where those winding roads that are so popular in New England could be a challenge within perhaps 5 years (his condition is degenerative) so I am wondering which town I should eliminate due to those really windy roads or are we out of luck. Also, could you give me an idea about the commute to Framingham. I know the towns are only a few miles away, but was unsure in rush hour if that meant a 30 minute drive, etc?
Any input would be greatly appreciated. This site is a wonderful resource. Thank you.
01-26-2011, 12:01 PM
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You could stay on mostly highways from Hopkinton to Framingham (Rt 495 to the Mass Pike), or Westboro to Framingham (mostly Rt 9 or Rt 30). It would likely be a little slower commute on the main roads but could be done in less than 30 minutes. (Sudbury also has very well rated schools & is close by but is also comparable in price to Sherborn & Southboro and has the windy road issue).
If you have other questions about surrounding towns please feel free to private message me. I live in Sherborn & have lived in Westboro, Southboro, Hopkinton & Holliston over the years.
01-26-2011, 12:15 PM
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Your options really are very open when working in framingham(especially TJX since its rights off the highway), pretty much anywhere on 90, 95, or 495. The question is how far away from boston do you want to be? would you rather live in metro west, or closer to the south shore?
I work in that area and live in Newton and can commute either via rt9, rt30, or the pike, and have co workers coming from pretty much all over... I dont own yet, but hope to continue working here mainly because it really keeps my options open for when I want to buy. Dont feel limited in this transfer, just figure out what area you'd want to live in and then start bringing down the selection a bit more.
Also, if your husband's eye condition is a real worry, if they can allow him to work 8-4 instead, traffic is almost a non issue, and will really open up options even more...
01-26-2011, 11:49 PM
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If Hopkinton seems like a town you would consider, then you'd also most likely find Holliston worth a look. Both are nice towns with well regarded schools, which somehow have lower housing costs than much of Metro West, despite these towns' advantages. My best guess is that housing prices are relatively low in Hopkinton and Holliston because they are not especially well located for a commute to Boston. Commuting to Framingham is much easier. There is some local traffic during rush hours, but nothing really brutal. In either Hopkinton or Holliston you might want to be picky about finding a location near a main road, because driving around on the local roads in either town could bring the winding road issue into the picture. Both towns would be good picks, though, if the driving issue can be worked out.
Immediately east of Framingham is Natick. Natick is a nice clean middle-class to upper-middle-class suburban town. Natick does not have quite the powerhouse, ultra-top-tier school system of some towns in the western suburbs, but the schools there are generally regarded as solid. Natick could be a good choice with regards to the winding road issue, as the streets everywhere in Natick except on the south side of town are laid out in a more traditionally suburban pattern, so that even curved streets tend to have more wide, smooth curves, rather than the narrow, random twists of the roads in some of the more leafy, low-density suburbs.
Another area you might at least want to look at would be the Cochituate section of Wayland, on the south side of town. The properties in Cochituate are generally more modest than those in other sections of Wayland, so you may find something below Wayland's median housing price which could be within your range. If you could find such a property, Cochituate could be a really good option for you, because Wayland's schools are highly regarded, and Cochituate is very close to TJX/T.J. Maxx, with roads that for the most part do not have that narrow winding character.
If worse comes to worst with the driving issue, it may be useful that the Metro West area has a local bus transit system. The system is a bit limited because it runs mostly during the daytime on weekdays, with little or no service on weekends or later than very early evening (7 PMish), but this feature may be a big help for living in that area if driving ever gets to be a problem. Here is the link to the Metro West transit website, where you can find info on the system, including routes and timetables, which could help in identifying convenient locations to consider living:
MetroWest Regional Transit Authority .
01-27-2011, 08:16 AM
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Thank you all for your advice. You've been very helpful and I appreciate the time you took in answering my questions.
01-27-2011, 10:32 AM
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You also shouldn't be too limited given your 5-600k budget. That will get you a decent amount of house in most of the surrounding nicer towns.
01-28-2011, 06:15 AM
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I agree with most of what Ogre said.
I hadn't thought of the western part of Wayland but it looks like there are options in your price range. Natick would be the most logical choice.
Another town to consider would be Ashland - limit your search to neighborhoods closer to Rt. 9.
With Hopkinton you get almost everything you are looking for but there are plenty of winding roads and if you aren't close to Rt. 85 your husband's commute is going to be longer than you think. You'd again- have to limit your search to certain areas. Living on the south-side of town (south of 135) you'd be looking at a commute of 30-35 minutes to Framingham near TJX. I travel on RT. 9 almost daily in/out of Hop/Ashland and the metrowest area and that is a fact!
Holliston- great town but you'll have t rule it out. 100% winding roads and about 10-15 minutes just to get to the main roads. I'd rule it out.
I hope that is helpful- the schools for the most part out here are excellent. If the commute and driving is the main concern then you should focus on these choices in order:
1) Natick/Wayland
2) Ashland
3) Hopkinton
Best of luck!
01-28-2011, 07:23 AM
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Thank you all. My husband doesn't think I need to do this research yet as we're just in the "talk" phase, but I like to know what we're getting into! We'd be moving from the South and am used to getting a lot of square footage so I'm attracted to Hopkinton as it looks like I could get a little more house for the money and not sacrifice schools. Also bear with me as we deal with no traffic so I'm trying to understand what we'll be getting. NY-er: My husband usually goes to work around 7 - 7:15 in the morning. Would that help with the traffic aspect? Coming home what are the peak times for traffic? Here he usually comes home right at 6 but I'm guessing that would still be pretty peak times.
I would really like to find a "community" to move into with soccer/ dance for kids, good schools, neighborhoods, etc. as that's what we're used to. I liked that Hopkinton even has a dance studio in town and little preschools, parks, etc. Does Ashland have that community feel? I've seen a lot of iffy comments and while the commute looks nice, I've sort of discounted it as an option.
01-28-2011, 01:30 PM
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Kell - I drove from Ashland to Framingham (actually right next door to TJX) this morning and got there in 20 minutes. There was minimal traffic on Rt 9. Some days the traffic is heavier.
Living in Hopkinton you have to add at least 10 minutes to that so my estimates are pretty spot-on! 30-35 minutes from most parts of Hop. (each way)
Rt 9 can be tricky especially with all of the shopping in Natick but it moves along pretty well for the most part. Around 4:30-6pm traffic will be congested but moving along. Going from Framingham back to Hopkington could take longer during the evenings- maybe even 45 minutes. It's just the way it is.
The morning commute shouldn't be all that bad.
I think all of the towns out this way pretty much offer what you are looking for. Ashland might be the little red-headed step-child to some other towns in the area, but don't discount it too far. It still ranks up there! And put it head to head with many other states/schools and it comes out on top.
You'll get a little more bang for your buck here in Ashland. Hopkinton definitely has more of a community feel but I wouldn't necessarily say it is leaps and bounds beyond what Ashland offers. Hopkinton tends to have more of an 'exclusive' tone in town. Within your price range you are just at the tip of the iceberg. Your budget in Ashland or Natick might stretch a little further.
With that said- the entire region has so many parks, activities, and benefits for children- not exclusive to any particular town. I feel like this area provides everything we need and could ask for and it isn't really from the town directly, but more of the area of MetroWest.
When things thaw out up here you'll see more properties come online and will get more of a true sense of what is available. As far as where you feel at home or most comfortable, you should make a trip up and poke around!
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People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)