08-19-2012, 02:11 PM
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If prep schools like Phillips Andover are "feeder" schools for Ivy League universities then what are the "feeder" schools for schools like PA? Where do the elementary/ middle school kids come from before entering these prep schools? I know there are some students from all over the country/world but what schools are the locals coming from?
08-19-2012, 09:50 PM
Location: North of Boston
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Most of the students at Phillips Andover came from local Massachusetts public school systems. Additionally, I would look at the actual graduation statistics of PA before calling it a "feeder" school for Ivy League universities, that's a bit of a generalization.
08-21-2012, 05:16 PM
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Most of the students at Phillips Andover came from local Massachusetts public school systems. Additionally, I would look at the actual graduation statistics of PA before calling it a "feeder" school for Ivy League universities, that's a bit of a generalization.
Umm.... try again... we had students from all over the country, and the WORLD coming to PA Andover... it IS a feeder school (depending on what field of study you choose). Don't ask me how I know.
Finis Origine Pendet... Non Sibi
How many high schools have their own radio station? (WPAA, though I heard it is now gone, but it was a lot of fun). Look at the number of famous people that graduated from there... High-school testing scores sure aren't the gold standard for the success of an individual... it is the self-motivation and drive of the person that accomplishes success. Many of the students passed out of their first year of college (at really hard schools), due to their education at PA.
Try some schools in Dorchester, Holyoke, Worcester, Mattapan or Roxbury, and see how far you get.
Geez.
(To be fair, numerous top middle schools in MA are feeder schools to PA. Andover being one of them).
08-21-2012, 07:10 PM
Location: Springfield and brookline MA
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As with most of these prep schools,as long as you have the cash they have the room. My younger brother went to Pomfret acadamey and was a hellion. He started skipping school in the 6th grade,hung out with some rough kids from JP and was arrested 5 times before high school. My parents were all set for him to go to PA but decided it was to close to home(Brookline)so they withdrew him and sent him to Pomfret instead. As far as grades go he was horrible but the money was there every year so he was retained,and sadly that is what drives these places....money.
08-21-2012, 07:29 PM
Location: Johns Island
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I went to Deerfield acadamey,had a great time and decided to stay in Western Mass and go to UMass much to my parents dismay. Took a teaching job at A.I.C and have been here ever since.
So what was the point of your parents spending the $200,000 on your high school education? I don't blame them for being dismayed. You had the best preparation possible, but went to an OK college. Some might see that as a waste.
08-21-2012, 10:12 PM
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So what was the point of your parents spending the $200,000 on your high school education? I don't blame them for being dismayed. You had the best preparation possible, but went to an OK college. Some might see that as a waste.
UMASS Amherst is at least a little more than "OK". The elitism on this board is baffling at times.
08-22-2012, 06:35 AM
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UMASS Amherst is at least a little more than "OK". The elitism on this board is baffling at times.
It is marginal. It is ranked 94th (so at least in the top 100), and the acceptance rate is 68%. It is also dirt cheap for residents (something like $12K). Umass Medical is also very inexpensive, and is ranked quite high.
I think you are confusing "elitism" with "wanting to provide the best opportunities for the parents' children".
Parents spend a lot of time and energy raising their children, and want to give their children the best opportunities in life. UMass (well only the Med school) got a solid one Nobel prize winner (the undergrad/grad has zero, and the campuses are huge). A tiny school like Johns Hopkins has 36, and they are ranked 15th in NP recipients. I would think that parents would want to surround their children with the doers and thinkers of the next generation, and provide a full college learning experience. YMMV
08-22-2012, 07:00 AM
Location: union county, nj
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Umm.... try again... we had students from all over the country, and the WORLD coming to PA Andover...
While I am sure that "better school districts" do have a higher percentage of students accepted to elite prep schools, if a student is motivated, that student will get in.
Things may have changed since I applied (early 90s), but I went to middle school in Lawrence (I know, I know... it wasnt on your list
) andwas accepted to not only PA, but Gov. Dummer (now called "The Governor's Academy?), Brooks Academy, etc. I ended up at Lawrence High, as I couldnt (even at that tender age) justify paying money for something that was "free". I like to think things worked out for me.
That being said, as a parent, I would want every advantage for my child and would want to be in a reputable school district...
BTW, it may not have been a radio station, but LHS did have a TV station
08-22-2012, 07:05 AM
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It is marginal. It is ranked 94th (so at least in the top 100), and the acceptance rate is 68%. ...
I have heard, when I was pondering Grad School, that the robotics program at UMass was one of the best in the world...
That was the reputation in CompSci circles any way...
I guess I am saying that, while undergrad may have rankings to go by, graduate programs (not schools, necessarily) are what count, and are tough to rank...
08-22-2012, 07:45 AM
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UMASS Amherst is at least a little more than "OK". The elitism on this board is baffling at times.
"Elite" is hardly what I am - I went to Pitt, an OK school itself. But my parents didn't spend hundreds of thousands on my secondary education, plus I went to college for free.
I equate this to people I see here in Jackson spending $15000 per kid per year on private school from grade school to high school, only for the kid to go to Ole Miss, a non-competitive college if ever there was one. I do consider that a waste of the parents money.
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Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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) andwas accepted to not only PA, but Gov. Dummer (now called "The Governor's Academy?), Brooks Academy, etc. I ended up at Lawrence High, as I couldnt (even at that tender age) justify paying money for something that was "free". I like to think things worked out for me.
