01-04-2013, 09:25 AM
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In a nutshell my home has been on the market for almost 2.5yrs (off for about 6mos in the middle). We had two agents/two different realtor companies, both had it in the $500K area.
This is a tiny town and that price is over the top for a local. We do not expect a local to buy it, but someone who is commuting towards either Springfiled/Worcestor or even Boston with a large or extended family. Easy access to I90/84 and RT's 9 and 20. It is rural zoned, but there also exists opportunities for commercial use (such as a lawyer, etc), quiet commercial.
In an effort to lower the price significantly, we dropped it by $125K, as a FSBO via Isoldmyhouse.com, now listing it at $425. The commission is 2.0% It has been bank finance appraised to ensure a new buyer can finance it, so that is not the problem.
My question is this, other than standard MLS, websites and realtor listings, including Facebook, where does one recommend we also list to attract the right buyer? One town over, and it would be in the 500's! It is a 3000sqft/3BR/4BA log home, with a separate 900sqft 1BR apartment over a commercial size 6car garage. The grounds are 2.79acres select cut, with a view of a brook in the distance
I am not using this forum as advertisement (does not hurt), but some advice as we go into the new year.
Any thoughts on what we could do better? We love it out here, it's just that my mom is gone now (we did the apartment for her) and my husband and I are just rattling around on this huge property. It needs a family or business person.
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Reason: no soliciting
01-04-2013, 09:44 AM
Location: Beautiful Rhode Island
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Unless someone is going to pay cash for your house, location trumps everything, especially when it comes to an appraisal and that is what will matter to anyone looking at your house who is mortgage dependent.
Is there anything else in your town that is for sale in this price range? Do you feel you're priced appropriately to comps? It could be possible you've just over improved for the area. You say you've got a commercial sized garage. Not sure who this would attract in a residential zone- an antique car collector or someone who works on vehicles? Maybe that is an avenue to explore?
01-04-2013, 10:19 AM
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Unless someone is going to pay cash for your house, location trumps everything, especially when it comes to an appraisal and that is what will matter to anyone looking at your house who is mortgage dependent.
Yes we did the bank finance (independent) appraisal to ensure a prospective buyer could get the financing. The original realtor list price was based on comps ( and 100K more).
01-04-2013, 11:03 AM
Location: Needham, MA
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Yes we did the bank finance (independent) appraisal to ensure a prospective buyer could get the financing. The original realtor list price was based on comps ( and 100K more).
I'm not defending your former agents in any way, but appraisers base their value on comps just as we real estate agents do. In fact, I often see appraisal reports of a house I've listed using the exact same comps I did to formulate the listing price. Likely, the problem is that you have a very unique home for the area and therefore it's difficult to comp. Clearly, your agents were off base but I wouldn't write off using a real estate agent entirely. Try to find one that's sold properties similar to yours in the past. Also, I wouldn't take your appraisal report as gospel either. I've seen appraisers come out with an incorrect value many, many times. They're just as likely to be wrong as a real estate agent. The public perception that appraisers are infallible couldn’t be further from the truth.
01-04-2013, 11:34 AM
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No, not thinking that the appraiser was gospel, but he just confirmed that our price was more realistic than the realtors, that's all. Yes, of course he used comps, and maybe even the same houses (sort of has to if he could find one similar).
Not interested in agents any more....we were strung along..."here sign this"....gone for 6mos.
Besides, until someone actually tries to buy it, guess we won't know, so until then not going to guess anymore. We have to believe someone knows the market.... and I hope its the bank!
I think giving an agent/broker 2% (8K) is a fair incentive at this point. I wanted to address this forum for recommendations about 'where' to list this house, other than the standard mls, etc....
01-04-2013, 11:46 AM
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Unique homes are hard to sell. My family members were in the same situation, different state. Big house with two legal apartments, nobody know what to do with. In the end they did not sell, they did not like price that would sell for. They kind of renting a portion, and kicking themselves for not biting the bullet. Selling price now is less than it was two years ago. We will see what future brings.
Other than Craig's List and Ebay.com I do not have any other ideas for marketing your place. I am sorry to say that if you could not sell "by owner" route yet, price is still to high, despite appraisals. Could you talk to someone and see if rezoning into commercial property would make more sense?
Good luck.
01-04-2013, 12:28 PM
Location: Massachusetts & Hilton Head, SC
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As long as there's no realtor involved, you are welcome to post it in the
classified forum here at City-Data.
01-04-2013, 12:50 PM
Location: Needham, MA
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No, not thinking that the appraiser was gospel, but he just confirmed that our price was more realistic than the realtors, that's all. Yes, of course he used comps, and maybe even the same houses (sort of has to if he could find one similar).
Not interested in agents any more....we were strung along..."here sign this"....gone for 6mos.
Besides, until someone actually tries to buy it, guess we won't know, so until then not going to guess anymore. We have to believe someone knows the market.... and I hope its the bank!
I think giving an agent/broker 2% (8K) is a fair incentive at this point. I wanted to address this forum for recommendations about 'where' to list this house, other than the standard mls, etc....
I'm just trying to help out. My experience is that
good real estate agents are the ones who know the market best. Finding a
good agent is not always an easy task as there are plenty of bad agents out there and even more mediocre ones. Banks, appraisers, attorneys, etc are just not out here "in the trenches" so to speak as we agents are and just don't know the market as well. It's just a matter of finding an agent who actually pays attention. I'm sorry you felt strung along by your former agents. Obviously, if you were following their advice and things didn't work out the only conclusion we can reach is that they didn't know what they were talking about. Had they even broached the subject of lowering the price with you?
Anyway, if you have your house on MLS that's really the best way to go about it as your local MLS likely has a syndication feed that automatically sends your listing to 100's if not 1,000's of websites. You could try a limited service agent (a/k/a an entry only service) but if you have a unique home to sell you likely need more help than just where to advertise your house.
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As long as there's no realtor involved, you are welcome to post it in the
classified forum here at City-Data.
Why is it that real estate agents are not allowed to list homes for sale in the classified section but everyone else is? Doesn't seem terribly fair to me especially since as the owner's agent I'm legally empowered to advertise their property for sale anywhere I see fit.
01-04-2013, 01:30 PM
Location: Massachusetts & Hilton Head, SC
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Because the classified ads are for individuals, only. No business is supposed to use the forum to sell anything.
01-04-2013, 01:56 PM
Location: Needham, MA
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Because the classified ads are for individuals, only. No business is supposed to use the forum to sell anything.
Not to be argumentative, but I'm not selling anything in my profession. The homeowner, an individual, is selling the asset. I'm just marketing it for them. This isn't the same thing as if Suzanne Sommers is trying to advertise the Thigh Master on your website vs. Joe Shmoe trying to sell his used Thigh Master. If Joe Shmoe hires Arnold Worldwide to market his used Thigh Master is he now not allowed to advertise in the classified section on C-D? In this case, in the end, the one who is really hurt by your rule is the homeowner.
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People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)