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Old 01-24-2014, 03:11 PM
 
Location: in the miseries
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Absolutely no parole. I say if you go to jail for heinous crimes so young, there's no
Redemption in this life.
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Old 01-24-2014, 07:05 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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The age of reason is what...seven, eight? Teenagers are just a few light years away from being a legal adult. MA is getting even weaker on crime than it's been in the past. MA used to always be on every "safe" state list. Not anymore! Anyone want to guess why? I haven't lived there in eight years, but I want my loved ones to be safe. Sorry but a line has to be drawn somewhere. I say NO.
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Old 01-25-2014, 01:57 PM
 
Location: northern Vermont - previously NM, WA, & MA
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State Senators Barry Finegold and Bruce Tarr other bi-partisan colleagues in the Massachusetts State Legislature are introducing a bill that will keep teenaged killers in prison for a minimum of 35 years as opposed to the standard set at 15 with the recent SJC ruling.
Bill: Juvenile killers would serve minimum of 35 years - Nashoba Publishing Online

There are organized petitions as well for this effort of keeping them locked behind bars...
Justice for Beth Brodie - Home
https://www.causes.com/campaigns/718...-edward-obrien
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Old 01-25-2014, 04:46 PM
 
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I don't know, but I read recently that MA has the highest rate of violent crime in the Northeast. Our bleeding heart justice system clearly doesn't have much to show for itself.
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Old 01-26-2014, 08:34 PM
miu
 
Location: MA/NH
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Philip Chism was 14 when he raped and killed his teacher. It's not so much charging him as an adult, but recognizing that teenagers who murder can't be rehabilitated and released back into society.
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Old 01-27-2014, 06:07 AM
miu
 
Location: MA/NH
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And no, I don't think that 14 year olds, particularly Philip Chism, should be allowed full adult privileges such as being able to drink alcohol and have a drivers license. What does being a teenage sociopath have anything to do with having enough maturity and sense to drink responsibly and be a good driver on a public road?

Plus I think what helps mature adults be more responsible with their drinking and driving habits is that they are personally liable for paying for their mistakes, whereas as underage teens, the financial burden of any mishaps is directed towards their parents.
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Old 01-27-2014, 06:21 AM
 
Location: SW Kansas
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There is no valid argument to treating teens as adults in all situatiins. They are not adults. But when a teen commits an "adult" crime such as murder, then the courts should sentance him as an adult. I'm tired of the all the lame bleeding heart excuses for these "kids", once you cross that line you are no longer a kid, you are a murderer.
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Old 01-27-2014, 09:03 AM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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There is no valid argument to treating teens as adults in all situatiins. They are not adults. But when a teen commits an "adult" crime such as murder, then the courts should sentance him as an adult. I'm tired of the all the lame bleeding heart excuses for these "kids", once you cross that line you are no longer a kid, you are a murderer.


So if you do something bad, you should be treated like an adult.

If you do things that are good, you should be treated like a child.

Got it, that makes sense
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Old 01-27-2014, 12:36 PM
 
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In addition to not being granted parole, the parents of teenage murderers should have to contribute to the cost of keeping them incarcerated for their entire lives.
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Old 01-27-2014, 05:45 PM
 
Location: SW Kansas
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So if you do something bad, you should be treated like an adult.

If you do things that are good, you should be treated like a child.

Got it, that makes sense
How simplistic!
We have been doing this for years. Teens are tried as adults for heinous crimes, such as murder - which is just a tiny bit worse than "doing something bad".
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