07-16-2014, 10:51 PM
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Hello all,
I'll be relocating from AZ to Boston come January 2015. My wife is going to start medical school in Boston in June 2015 so we thought we go there 6 months earlier for a head start. I've been looking through the rent prices around the area and it scares me. I'm paying $500 here right now, and that includes utilities.
Hoping to get some advice on which areas I can start my search for a decent place to stay. I've got myself, the wife and 2 kids starting grade 2 next year. We're considering moving to the outskirts and commute to Boston (wife for studies, myself for work if need be). I guess 1 hour train ride each way would be fine for both of us. We're just looking for a small city to stay, with a lower cost of rental VS Boston area. I'm not expecting to pay $500 there, but somewhere along the lines of $700~$900.
I've yet to start my job search. Hope to do it sometime in November. I've got an AA in IT. I've been in the IT (networking) field for the last 4 years. Can anyone advise on areas within a 1 hour travel radius to Boston that I could look into ? Ideally, i'm looking for a place that is children friendly (low crime rate, with decent schools) and a decent rent price. We won't be getting a car, so we'll be doing most of our travels by train.
Thank you
07-16-2014, 11:48 PM
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First, you need to be prepared for some serious change in the cost of living. Even 700-900 dollars for rent is going to be tough to find for a place that can house a family. That's very low for probably anywhere in the Boston metro area, but if you were able to find suitable housing at that price, it would most likely be well outside the city. Then you have to think about not only the time spent commuting but the cost of train fare, which can get pretty steep if you're riding from the outer suburbs. I don't want to sound discouraging, but realistically you need to do a serious evaluation of the cost of living in this area.
Second, where will your wife be attending school? The commuting destination makes a lot of difference--sometimes all the difference--in determining what areas would be feasible for you to make your home.
07-17-2014, 04:53 AM
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She'll be going to Boston University.
We thought about trying to find a place outside of the Boston area, like Lynn ? Then take a train down to school/work. Is that a bad idea ?
07-17-2014, 05:48 AM
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So you're braving an extra winter cause you miss winters so much!
January is not the best time to find apartments and in general to move. Availability is low. And remember heat is very expensive around here.
You might have better luck in the spring (say April), especially since it sounds like you're job searching and your dates are flexible.
I agree the budget sounds too low to me. Not sure if you're being totally realistic. You also want a decent, safe school system for your children - I personally would not choose Lynn.
I assume BU offers no student housing options? Coming from a former med student, the closer you can get to BU the easier things will be on your wife. She's going to be there long and sometimes erratic hours.
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07-17-2014, 07:31 AM
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Your budget will have to be double of that what you are willing to spend. Family with two kids will probably not find anything under $1250-$1600 unless something really seedy, in crime ridden area, or an illegal attic/basement apartment.
Lynn is not best choice for people with kids unless you can swing private/parochial school. And I am not sure you can even find place in Lynn for $700. January is tough for rentals as other poster mentioned.
You will need to reassess your budget and plan. Boston Metro area is one of the priciest in the nation and get ready for some serious sticker shock.
You would need to move far out into rural West MA to find some lower prices, which then would make for an impossible and expensive commute for all involved. What you save on rent you will spend on commute. No way around it. Everything costs arm and a leg.
That all being said, find a job, figure out more realistic budget, and we will gladly help you sort out good areas to zoom in.
Good luck!
07-17-2014, 07:39 AM
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Can anyone advise on areas within a 1 hour travel radius to Boston that I could look into ? Ideally, i'm looking for a place that is children friendly (low crime rate, with decent schools) and a decent rent price. We won't be getting a car, so we'll be doing most of our travels by train.
This is a tall order I'm afraid. And yes, you'll need to double your rent range to find safe and decent schools for a 4 person place within an hour on public transit. Sorry.
07-17-2014, 07:41 AM
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Love your statement "wife for studies,
myself for work if need be "! You will definitely need a job. You won't get anything but a storage unit or a parking space anywhere in the metro area for the peanuts you want to shell out.
$500-700 is the price point for a roommate share...one bedroom only. I'm sure you want to keep your family together, but you're going to have to go way out of the city. Far off towns like Fall River and Attleboro are maybe at your bargain basement rental rates. Good luck with that!
I also wonder why she doesn't go to the University of New Mexico's medical school instead? Way lower cost of living and the school offers off campus housing for families that is reasonable.
http://housing.unm.edu/student-family-housing/
07-17-2014, 08:05 AM
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Hoping to get some advice on which areas I can start my search for a decent place to stay. I've got myself, the wife and 2 kids starting grade 2 next year. We're considering moving to the outskirts and commute to Boston (wife for studies, myself for work if need be).
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Love your statement "wife for studies, myself for work if need be "! You will definitely need a job. You won't get anything but a storage unit or a parking space anywhere in the metro area for the peanuts you want to shell out.
Presumably he's only going to commute to Boston for work if need be. He'd be far better off working near where his kids go to school, as a long commute makes dealing with problems difficult. Hopefully the OP can find a flexible job near to where his family ends up. It's going to be tough no matter what.
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I'm guessing you've never applied to medical school or been around someone who has applied. Getting in can be tough and the application process is not trivial. It's quite possible that the OP's wife applied many places and the most practical place she was accepted was BU.
07-17-2014, 08:56 AM
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I'd suggest checking with BU about housing options. They possibly may have some type of subsidized housing available. Otherwise, I think living close to school for your wife would be best. She's going to be putting in long hours, and a total of 2 hours commuting each way will not work out well. Given the difference in living expenses, I would recommend not moving here a whole 6 months early--save that money. Most medical school students move at most a week or two before things start, and that's plenty of time to get settled in.
I'm assuming she'll have some sort of financial aid. What's the coverage of that for living expenses?
In terms of areas, if you could afford it, Allston would be something I'd consider as close enough, but cheaper. You'd be pretty limited by not having a car and being outside of the greater Boston area. You can find cheaper places in Malden, but then that'd probably be at least 40 minutes by T each way to BU.
07-17-2014, 11:17 AM
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Just wanted to add that I lived in the Phoenix AZ area a decade ago, and we paid around $850 for a basic, nice but not special, 2 br. apartment in the outskirts of Glendale. So OP's expectations are cheap for AZ standards, never mind Boston area. Not sure quite where he's coming from.
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People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)