First Time Home Buyer South of Boston (Brockton, Quincy: condos, high schools)

[Dm84]

Originally Posted by vtecluder617

I'd rather not, thanks though

I actually do go to Westgate and if it weren't for Market Basket that entire complex would have almost zero foot traffic. The actual mall itself is a ghost town with lots of low end stores with little to no foot traffic. The rest of the city looks like a bomb went off and no one ever bothered to clean up the mess. But hey, they might build a casino right across the street from the high school. I'm sure that will fix all of Brockton's problems.

But hey, he says it's thriving!

[ladyalicemore]

When my father passed away, my sister and I took a room at the Holiday Inn in the Westgate Mall parking lot for the night before his funeral. We had her two pre-school children with us.

We heard gunfire around midnight. So sad, what has happened to Brockton. (I guess it _could_ have been a car backfiring, but that seems unlikely).

[jan0105]

Originally Posted by n1ey

It is ludicrous to think that homes near the Hingham border and the water will fare worse than South Weymouth. Portions of South Weymouth border a suspected cancer cluster. Plus, down the road the traffic will be worse upon the completion of the SouthField; I am proud to be one of the few town officials that voted against SouthField.

Bill

You're an elected official? Yikes.

[MrLinderman]

Originally Posted by n1ey

Actually my knowledge is better than you might think. Abington is now a level 3 School system. Stoughton, Avon, and Holbrook are stuggling to offer AP classes. Brockton provides AP classes and all of the athletics. If you set foot in Brockton then you can see that the town is a thriving blue-collar area. Abington is not so well. Abington has many vacant commercial properties; you can only find a higher constant rate in Rockland. The area around the Musterfield in Abington is considered to be an open drug dealing area. You think that Abington is better? How about the Dunkin' Donuts dealing?

It is ludicrous to think that homes near the Hingham border and the water will fare worse than South Weymouth. Portions of South Weymouth border a suspected cancer cluster. Plus, down the road the traffic will be worse upon the completion of the SouthField; I am proud to be one of the few town officials that voted against SouthField.

If you look at the actual scores of Newton or talk to people about the level of violence in the school, then

you will find it is not so hot. Have you seen the success of other people? You chock up everything to disgusting sets of certainties based on nonsense. However, it really gets down to your posting had acknowledged your severe racist overtones.

I lived in the area for 40 years. I graduated from one of the high schools that has a better rating than one of the schools found in Weymouth or Abington. I have been involved in the community. I dare to say that you have not.

Bill

Oh this will be fun.

It is ludicrous to think that homes near the Hingham border and the water will fare worse than South Weymouth. Portions of South Weymouth border a suspected cancer cluster. Plus, down the road the traffic will be worse upon the completion of the SouthField; I am proud to be one of the few town officials that voted against SouthField.

Then you've never actually spent any meaningful time in Weymouth. North Weymouth, except for small clusters in the Weymouth Heights and the concrete jungle of Weymouthport, area are generally old, small converted cottages, on fairly small lots. South Weymouth houses are newer, nicer, and generally on bigger lots. The median home value in South Weymouth is significantly higher than in North. North has been the poorer part of town since I've been alive. North has generally been the poorer part of town when my mother moved here in 1957. If it's ludicrous to think that the parts of Weymouth near Hingham would fare worse than South Weymouth, why have they pretty much never done so? Hingham didn't just appear over night. The water has always been there. Why has it been the "seedy" part of town for 75 years?

If you set foot in Brockton then you can see that the town is a thriving blue-collar area. Abington is not so well. Abington has many vacant commercial properties; you can only find a higher constant rate in Rockland. The area around the Musterfield in Abington is considered to be an open drug dealing area. You think that Abington is better? How about the Dunkin' Donuts dealing?

Come on. Based on the FBI's uniform crime stats, Brockton was the 6th most violent town in the state in 20142014 FBI stats: New Bedford most violent city in Mass.; Fairhaven and Wareham also rank in top 40 - News - southcoasttoday.com - New Bedford, MA

Brockton had 992 violent crimes in 2014 for 94,427 residents, or 10.5 violent crimes per thousand. Abington meanwhile, had 28 violent crimes for 16,200 residents, or a rate of 1.72 per thousand. Just because you know of a few drug deals (which happen everywhere-imagine how many in Brockton?) in Abington does not invalidate the data that Brockton is roughly 10x as violent as Abington. From 2009-13 Census data the median household income in Brockton was 49,025, and the median family income was 57,773. In Abington, it was 78,885 for household, and family was 92,452. Furthermore, seeing as you love anecdotes and tend to ignore data, my father worked in Brockton for almost 30 years. He knew it intimately, and knew it as a crime-ridden dump.

I mean come on, there's a reason that the DMH regional office/ emergency crisis center is in Brockton.

I lived in the area for 40 years. I graduated from one of the high schools that has a better rating than one of the schools found in Weymouth or Abington. I have been involved in the community. I dare to say that you have not.

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Now we're playing who went to a better high school and who works more in the community? Assuming you're at least 40 that means you graduated high school in 1994 at the earliest, two years into Clinton's first term. How that has any bearing on the topic at hand, I don't know.

Not like I volunteerd for my state rep or anything. Not like I forced my parents to dig out our yard sign for a town councilor and bring it to a rally when I was like 10. Not like any of that stuff matters or has any bearing on the topic at hand either.

You're pretty much the only person with these views. I daresay that there's a pretty good chance you might be wrong.

[xo_kizzy_xo]

Originally Posted by MrLinderman

North has generally been the poorer part of town when my mother moved here in 1957. If it's ludicrous to think that the parts of Weymouth near Hingham would fare worse than South Weymouth, why have they pretty much never done so? Hingham didn't just appear over night. The water has always been there. Why has it been the "seedy" part of town for 75 years?

Because of the shipyard? That's the only thing I can think of.

[Southshorebound]

MrLinderman - The the area around Tern Harbor in North Weymouth seems really nice to me. The houses are on the small side but some of them offer spectacular views of the ocean and/or Boston. Is this not considered a desirable area? What area is considered North Weymouth?
I'm a fan of Weymouth in general. I think it offers a lot for the price considering nearby amenities and access to Boston. Wish the area off 3A was a little spruced up though.
Anyone on the south shore looking for a great breakfast should check out Niko's on Broad St.

[massnative71]

Originally Posted by Southshorebound

MrLinderman - The the area around Tern Harbor in North Weymouth seems really nice to me. The houses are on the small side but some of them offer spectacular views of the ocean and/or Boston. Is this not considered a desirable area? What area is considered North Weymouth?
I'm a fan of Weymouth in general. I think it offers a lot for the price considering nearby amenities and access to Boston. Wish the area off 3A was a little spruced up though.
Anyone on the south shore looking for a great breakfast should check out Niko's on Broad St.

Along 3A is a little rough, but that is largely the worst of it. The area around Great Hill Park is very desirable (with beautiful views of Boston Harbor).

Looking for breakfast in Weymouth, it's Nick's all the way.

[MrLinderman]

Originally Posted by massnative71

Along 3A is a little rough, but that is largely the worst of it. The area around Great Hill Park is very desirable (with beautiful views of Boston Harbor).

Looking for breakfast in Weymouth, it's Nick's all the way.

Nick's and Niko's are great. I'm still in mourning about losing Caswell's for lunch though


Since I'm bored at work, I made a little map of what generally consists of NW. It cut off a bit of Weymouthport up in the top right, but you get the idea.

The red is North Weymouth as a whole. The green is what's generally considered Weymouth Heights (but it's not an official neighborhood, and realistically only people that have been here since the 70's know it exists at all. There's one smallish neighborhood that overlaps between the heights and NW. It's pretty solid. The yellow areas are, in my opinion, the "nicer" parts of North Wemyouth. There's certainly some hidden gems in the area.

That being said, the areas not in yellow, while in my opinion aren't as good, aren't necessarily bad. There's some decent homes throughout all of North Weymouth. For instance Rinaldo Rd and the surrounding streets aren't bad, just smallish and kind of boring. The closer you get to the bridge to Quincy the worse it gets. Again, it's not slums, but just kind of eh.

House for house, you'll find nicer houses in South Weymouth, but there are nice ones in NW as well. With regards to great Hill, it's beautiful up there, but just afew blocks over you get some old beach houses that haven't been updated all that well (although some have).

NW map - Imgur

[ashaway12]

Originally Posted by n1ey

I have been in the area for 40 years. I just know someone that sold their South Weymouth home. They bought on that premise. They were only in there for a few years. The violent kids from Abington do patrol northwards. Town borders do not stop them. The drug dealing is all around the area.

In talking about re-sale value it would be to harness the amenities. The friend in South Weymouth had several failed attempts to sell his house. People could not finance the house. The quality of the prospective buyers was low.

Hate to break it to you bud, but drugs are everywhere, plenty of rich kids in Hingham and Cohasset that have drug issues too.

[Southshorebound]

Originally Posted by MrLinderman

Nick's and Niko's are great. I'm still in mourning about losing Caswell's for lunch though


Since I'm bored at work, I made a little map of what generally consists of NW. It cut off a bit of Weymouthport up in the top right, but you get the idea.

The red is North Weymouth as a whole. The green is what's generally considered Weymouth Heights (but it's not an official neighborhood, and realistically only people that have been here since the 70's know it exists at all. There's one smallish neighborhood that overlaps between the heights and NW. It's pretty solid. The yellow areas are, in my opinion, the "nicer" parts of North Wemyouth. There's certainly some hidden gems in the area.

That being said, the areas not in yellow, while in my opinion aren't as good, aren't necessarily bad. There's some decent homes throughout all of North Weymouth. For instance Rinaldo Rd and the surrounding streets aren't bad, just smallish and kind of boring. The closer you get to the bridge to Quincy the worse it gets. Again, it's not slums, but just kind of eh.

House for house, you'll find nicer houses in South Weymouth, but there are nice ones in NW as well. With regards to great Hill, it's beautiful up there, but just afew blocks over you get some old beach houses that haven't been updated all that well (although some have).

NW map - Imgur

Thanks for the map - doesn't seem to be a lot of city-data info on Weymouth